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    How much of the universe is related to a circle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of York View Post
    Why did He bother with us? Why doesn't He make His existence obvious, provided He wants people to believe in Him?
    Perhaps I should just look up some theological arguments and stop doing all the work myself.
    That is what messes me up about Christianity. It seems logical because according to the bible, God is trying his hardest to get everyone to believe in Him...with the alternative being hell. Why not just appear. Stand up and say, "hey guys, over here!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of York View Post
    The problem I have with nothing is trying to imagine nothing existing at some point.
    If nothing existed then what is "some point" doing there? And why is there a "there" if there is nothing?
    A criticism that can be brought against everything ought not to be brought against anything.

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    Hegemony, political control, illuminati, conspiracy theories, people like David Icke. Knowledge, and all information as we receive it, is subjective. Is there any absolute truth at all?

    Most things that are beyond scientific explanation boggle my mind, but I don't entertain such ideas too seriously. They're fun to think about, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnivera View Post
    Is there any absolute truth at all?
    That is the only kind of truth. If a statement is true then it is not false and if a statement is false then it is not true. There is no third alternative called 'absolutely true'. If a statement is not absolutely true then it is false, and a statement which is false is not true. Therefore, a statement which is absolutely true is a statement which is not false, but then a statement which is not false is true. In other words, a 'truth' and an 'absolute truth' are the same thing. The original question can be read as: is there any truth at all? This question requests a statement which describes the facts, but a statement which correctly describes the facts is a true statement. Therefore, answering negatively would describe a world in which truth did not exist, but then if this the statement describes the facts then it is true, by definition. Therefore, any answer to this question would imply that truth exists.
    A criticism that can be brought against everything ought not to be brought against anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reason View Post
    If nothing existed then what is "some point" doing there? And why is there a "there" if there is nothing?
    I meant at some point in time, before now. Of course, when there is nothing, there is no time either. As for location, I already said that there is neither anything there nor any "there" in the first place. There is no frame of reference. It's completely empty, except that there is nothing that is empty, since there is no space.

    ...nothing.

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    heh, thanks for saying what I wanted to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnivera View Post
    heh, thanks for saying what I wanted to say.
    Uh, who?

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