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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    Sadly, this is true. What is even sadder is that people will cling to their predigested notion of ''truth'' to their graves. We live in a technologically advanced world. It is time to put childish things such as religion aside before we seriously hurt ourselves.

    The Abrahamic religions are some of the worst at wanting to hurt others.

    This in no way disowns spirituality, though.
    Hey Q. One of the reasons I started this thread is to hint at, to show, that ideology does not stop where religion stops. In fact, it never stops, the best we can be aware of is what ideologies we bolster and what effects they have on the world and others. This is difficult because ideology, God flavored or not is built for you to not be aware of it.

    The main way it does that is to appoint someone to vilify as a distraction and put everything bad into them: Jews, Christians, liberal Athiests, Americans.

    Hmm I wonder who around here is attempting to push their own ideology as if it were Fetch. Can anyone spot him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    Hey Q. One of the reasons I started this thread is to hint at, to show, that ideology does not stop where religion stops. In fact, it never stops, the best we can be aware of is what ideologies we bolster and what effects they have on the world and others. This is difficult because ideology, God flavored or not is built for you to not be aware of it.

    The main way it does that is to appoint someone to vilify as a distraction and put everything bad into them: Jews, Christians, liberal Athiests, Americans.

    Hmm I wonder who around here is attempting to push their own ideology as if it were Fetch. Can anyone spot him?
    Objectively, there is no meaning. Based on this, every moral system we create will be based on an arbitrary ideology.

    To maintain order, we need rules.
    First, do no harm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    Objectively, there is no meaning. Based on this, every moral system we create will be based on an arbitrary ideology.

    To maintain order, we need rules.
    First, do no harm.
    It's not completely arbitrary. People have very real and objective needs, those needs do change with technological and environmental changes. How we live and how we think are effected by that. I see the importance of being able to identify ideology is gaining the ability to be as much as an individual as you can be, to be able to gain understanding, and promote it and be able to effect your surroundings. It's about personal power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    It's not completely arbitrary. People have very real and objective needs, those needs do change with technological and environmental changes. How we live and how we think are effected by that. I see the importance of being able to identify ideology is gaining the ability to be as much as an individual as you can be, to be able to gain understanding, and promote it and be able to effect your surroundings. It's about personal power.
    Finally, a common core.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    This shit head is the #1 atheist Richard Dawkins Quotes - BrainyQuote

    Or as he defines himself; an antitheist . Cuz just not believing is not enough, he needs to see himself as antithesis of a theist
    For the 'anti-atheist,' just believing is not enough, it's necessary to be saved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    For the 'anti-atheist,' just believing is not enough, it's necessary to be saved.
    There is beauty in hammering down truth, unless said truth is full of lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    Objectively, there is no meaning. Based on this, every moral system we create will be based on an arbitrary ideology.

    To maintain order, we need rules.
    First, do no harm.
    Actually, we are meaning creating animals. And since the European Enlightenment of the 17th and 18th centuries we have learnt to distinguish between mysticism and fact using evidence and reason.

    Ideology is -

    1. predigested thought
    2. serves interests
    3. and has a demonology.

    Whereas fact is verifiable by one and all because it is reproducible.

    Ideology is meant to persuade while fact is objective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Proving what, beside Mole's point?
    He was suggesting (or at least that was how I read it) that it was just a faulty interpretation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    He is a good man with very good ideas. I wouldn't be so quick to call him a ''shit head.''
    What made you think that my view of him comes from some quick assessment? I have watched around 4-6 hours of his debates against religion and he has this documentary series that i have also watched some episodes of.

    Do you agree for example that childrens stories that arent realistic should be banned because they only fuck up childrens heads and cause them to be irrational as adults? I think he used the kissing of a frog that then will turn into a prince as an example and went to great lengths to tell why stories like this are harmful. Ofc being a retard that he is, he totally missed the point of the story which teaches the kids that even tho someone might not be the most attractive person in the world, if you kiss him/her you just might end up with the person of your dreams.

    That guy is similarly deranged as ayn rand is with her objectivism view on life, but its easy to see the similarity between the two as they are(or in ayns case were) both INTJs with some serious complexes that drive them toward on their goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    This forms the basis of anti-semitism, for almost 2,000 years, right up to and including he holocaust, first Jesus destroys Judaic ideology, then the we destroy the Jews.
    The idea of a "new covenant"(with God destroying the old covenant) is not at the hart of anti-semitism.

    Anti-semitism is rooted in the belief that the Jews "killed Christ".

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