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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Everyone needs something to believe in so as not to self-destruct.
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    Everyone needs something to believe in so as to be able to keep on moving.
    Right, but some beliefs are more harmful than others.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    Right, but some beliefs are more harmful than others.
    Damn it appears I've made a double post out of an edit.

    Harmful to whom and how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Damn it appears I've made a double post out of an edit.

    Harmful to whom and how?
    So what you want me to do is quantify the general essence of the word some, with specific examples of harmful beliefs?

    Ok....I'll bite, although as a disclaimer I'm going to throw out a Godwin's law straight away:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

    http://drarthuride.hubpages.com/hub/...he-name-of-god

    http://listverse.com/2008/04/02/8-at...e-of-religion/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/1...-report-shows/

    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...ad.php?t=69901

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

    And just to clarify:

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/de...english/belief

    1An acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof:
    his belief in extraterrestrial life

    1.1Something one accepts as true or real; a firmly held opinion:
    we’re prepared to fight for our beliefs
    [MASS NOUN]: contrary to popular belief existing safety regulations were adequate

    1.2A religious conviction:
    Christian beliefs
    [MASS NOUN]: the medieval system of fervent religious belief

    2 (belief in) Trust, faith, or confidence in (someone or something):
    a belief in democratic politics
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
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    It can be the same for every ideology including religion. It's due to people's lack of self-awareness, untamed fears and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    It can be the same for every ideology including religion. It's due to people's lack of self-awareness, untamed fears and stuff.
    Doesn't really disprove my point, though. Also what if the ideology was aimed towards finding a cure for various illnesses or conditions? Or perhaps an end to more global issues such as starvation and overconsumption? Overpopulation... Etc.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    Doesn't really disprove my point, though. Also what if the ideology was aimed towards finding a cure for various illnesses or conditions? Or perhaps an end to more global issues such as starvation and overconsumption? Overpopulation... Etc.
    It wasn't meant to disprove It can still be wielded for "evil" purposes if people are not self-aware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Yes, but for five years, 66-70 AD, the Jewish Zealots drove the Romans out of Jerusalem and Palestine.

    But just as the Romans obliterated Cathage for their insult to Roman power, so the Judaic Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD for the same insult to Roman power.

    Never forget, Cathago delenda est.

    Remember Cathage, the Judaic Temple, Iraq and Afganistan - all the result of insulting Roman power, or the Roman power of the day.
    All roads lead to Rome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evee View Post
    All roads lead to Rome.
    All roads lead to Rome because the Romans built the roads.

    So today we see the roads have morphed into the internet. So to find out who is the Rome of today, we ask, who built the internet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    All roads lead to Rome because the Romans built the roads.

    So today we see the roads have morphed into the internet. So to find out who is the Rome of today, we ask, who built the internet?
    One would need look no further than the architecture of the Lincoln memorial, or the Capital building of the United States.

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    Off-topic bickering has been moved to the usual dumping ground.

    Stay on topic, folks, and play nice.
    I've been called a criminal, a terrorist, and a threat to the known universe. But everything you were told is a lie. The truth is, they've taken our freedom, our home, and our future. The time has come for all humanity to take a stand...

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