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    Default What kind of person are you working towards becoming?

    I've been reading Epictetus, and this kind of stuff is on my mind. The discussion is pretty open to anything, but here are some prompts if you need any ideas:

    Do you have a clear picture of who you want to become?
    Do you have any role models you seek to emulate?
    Do you keep a journal to monitor your progress?
    Are you happy with your progress thus far?

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    This topic makes me a very happy person.

    I'm aiming to better myself in ways I previously thought were unobtainable by an INTP. I mean, I'm a very logical, rational, honest person, but I'm often labeled as INFP because I'm very emotional, too. I use logic and rational thinking to sail through my sea of emotions, but sometimes the ship sinks. I used to believe the world was black and white, in a roundabout, awkward way. I myself have never been black or white, I'm quite the grey person. But I had an all-or-nothing viewpoint for my entire teenage years. Either I exercise 10 times a week for 3 hours each time, or I don't exercise at all. These shortcomings in particular lead to me being anorexic.

    But, now that I'm older and healthier, I can recognize all the flaws within me. I could before, but now I know how to change. I also know how to accept myself and love myself, and realize I can't be perfect and don't desire to be. I just want to overcome the more serious of flaws. If I truly desire something, nothing can stop me from attaining my goal. I get that to some this level of stubbornness can be very off putting, but I use it for good. It must run in the family because my sister who has Asperger's has fought like hell to overcome her social anxiety and other autism related issues. Not even 2 years ago, if you told her to talk on the phone, she'd cry and run away and wouldn't come out from her room. But now, she can easily talk to me. Not only that, but my dad said she can comfortably make polite conversation when the situation calls for it, and she no longer speaks in a super quiet, timid voice. She's grown confident, and to me that is the kind of person I'm working towards becoming. I want to not only be proud of my sister and I's accomplishments when it comes to training ourselves to be better people, but I also want to continue being able to explore the world and explore viewpoints--some which may conflict with my own, and that's okay.

    And yes, I realize not all life lessons can be taught to yourself. I'm very aware. Nonetheless, I've taught myself a lot, and it's one of my favorite things to do--to sit in my thoughts, argue with myself, and suddenly have an A-ha! moment.

    First thing I want to work on is to not go off on tangents so damn much.
    people who expect a change
    who can't throw away their humanity
    who stay idle in growth
    who won't dirty their hands
    those are the most terrifying of monsters

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    Do you have a clear picture of who you want to become?
    Me, but more awesome. There's not that much about my personality I'd like to change that I can think of. I don't have much of a clear plan for the future, but I'm thinking about working with adolescents with a low SES or a troubled home and make sure they stay out of trouble. I'd like to help solve problems our society has to deal with everyday. As for myself... My dream is to travel a lot, have a boat and keep three Siamese cats and some tarantulas as pets. I always hoped I'd also end up with a nice guy and have three or for kids with him, but I gave up on that, because it's unrealistic (too much competition).

    Do you have any role models you seek to emulate?
    No.

    Do you keep a journal to monitor your progress?
    Unless you count the bullshit I post on social media as a journal, nope.

    Are you happy with your progress thus far?
    I guess.
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    Cool thread idea.

    1.Do you have a clear picture of who you want to become?
    I'm not good with specifics, but I know I want to become a good woman, a woman who is strong enough in herself and knows wrong from right among other things, so I've got the gist of it down.

    2.Do you have any role models you seek to emulate?
    No. I never want to be someone I'm not plus I've never been one for the whole role model thing, I hate being compared to others for the most part.

    3.Do you keep a journal to monitor your progress?
    Nope.

    4.Are you happy with your progress thus far?
    Yes, I feel like I've gained a lot of perspective and strength since becoming an "adult", I feel like I am building a good starting point within myself to grow into my potential.

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    Do you have a clear picture of who you want to become?

    No, not at all, and I'm adamantly against forming a picture of what I want to become. I like to think of my personal growth as actualizing who I am, which is a process of revelation, not prescription.

    In very abstract terms, I just went through a cycle of self exploration, and now I'm steering into self-expression.

    Do you have any role models you seek to emulate?

    I find the most admirable thing about anybody is courage and curiosity and openness, which to me is epitomized by Richard Francis Burton.

    Do you keep a journal to monitor your progress?

    Nah, I just pick a direction and go, go, go. I do think back often about where I was a year ago, 5 years ago, 3 months ago...

    Are you happy with your progress thus far?

    YES.

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    Do you have a clear picture of who you want to become?
    I'd say yes. I'm working towards becoming a composer and I'm going to do an education after I left high school.

    Do you have any role models you seek to emulate?
    Hans Zimmer

    Do you keep a journal to monitor your progress?
    No.

    Are you happy with your progress thus far?
    Not really. I'm currently stuck in a dissatisfying state of life (All work, no play).
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    Do you have a clear picture of who you want to become?

    Yes, I have a pretty good idea. I want to better myself in all way I can and I want to make my dreams reality some day.

    Do you have any role models you seek to emulate?

    Of course I do. Hannibal Lector, Henry Hill from Goodfellas, The Joker, Jack Nicholson from the shining.
    In all seriousness though, I like to read about people who accomplished great things and try and take away lessons about them.

    Do you keep a journal to monitor your progress?

    No

    Are you happy with your progress so far?

    yea, i'm pretty happy. I'm slowly getting where i want to be.

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    Oh sorry dudes, I totally forgot about this thread after it got no replies for a few days. I should probably subscribe to my own threads! Thanks for weighing in.

    Quote Originally Posted by LadyLazarus View Post
    Cool thread idea.
    Thanks

    1.Do you have a clear picture of who you want to become?
    I'm not good with specifics, but I know I want to become a good woman, a woman who is strong enough in herself and knows wrong from right among other things, so I've got the gist of it down.
    Yeah I'm kind of the same way, but some people claim to have a very clear picture of their future. My vision is more like: just be better, make wiser choices, live authentically.

    2.Do you have any role models you seek to emulate?
    No. I never want to be someone I'm not plus I've never been one for the whole role model thing, I hate being compared to others for the most part.
    Your Fi is showing! While I know what you're saying, I personally think it's important to have concrete models to work off of. You don't have to become that person, but they give you a picture of what qualities you might want to embody, it doesn't mean you're not your own person. When Bob Dylan first started out, he was basically a Woody Guthrie impersonator, and then blossomed into one of the most original and influential musicians of the 20th century. Influences give you a solid foundation on which to build your own unique life. That's just my opinion though, not telling you to go out there and deliberately find a role model.

    4.Are you happy with your progress thus far?
    Yes, I feel like I've gained a lot of perspective and strength since becoming an "adult", I feel like I am building a good starting point within myself to grow into my potential.
    Glad to hear it

    Quote Originally Posted by Ukon View Post
    This topic makes me a very happy person.

    I'm aiming to better myself in ways I previously thought were unobtainable by an INTP. I mean, I'm a very logical, rational, honest person, but I'm often labeled as INFP because I'm very emotional, too. I use logic and rational thinking to sail through my sea of emotions, but sometimes the ship sinks. I used to believe the world was black and white, in a roundabout, awkward way. I myself have never been black or white, I'm quite the grey person. But I had an all-or-nothing viewpoint for my entire teenage years. Either I exercise 10 times a week for 3 hours each time, or I don't exercise at all. These shortcomings in particular lead to me being anorexic.

    But, now that I'm older and healthier, I can recognize all the flaws within me. I could before, but now I know how to change. I also know how to accept myself and love myself, and realize I can't be perfect and don't desire to be. I just want to overcome the more serious of flaws. If I truly desire something, nothing can stop me from attaining my goal. I get that to some this level of stubbornness can be very off putting, but I use it for good. It must run in the family because my sister who has Asperger's has fought like hell to overcome her social anxiety and other autism related issues. Not even 2 years ago, if you told her to talk on the phone, she'd cry and run away and wouldn't come out from her room. But now, she can easily talk to me. Not only that, but my dad said she can comfortably make polite conversation when the situation calls for it, and she no longer speaks in a super quiet, timid voice. She's grown confident, and to me that is the kind of person I'm working towards becoming. I want to not only be proud of my sister and I's accomplishments when it comes to training ourselves to be better people, but I also want to continue being able to explore the world and explore viewpoints--some which may conflict with my own, and that's okay.

    And yes, I realize not all life lessons can be taught to yourself. I'm very aware. Nonetheless, I've taught myself a lot, and it's one of my favorite things to do--to sit in my thoughts, argue with myself, and suddenly have an A-ha! moment.

    First thing I want to work on is to not go off on tangents so damn much.
    lol@tangents comment. Aside from the lulz though, this was a very nice story. It sounds like you (and your sister) have put a lot of mileage on your developmental odometer already! I also like to sit and argue with myself until I have an epiphany, so I related a lot to your post, maybe you're more INFP than you think

    Quote Originally Posted by Comeback Girl View Post
    Do you have a clear picture of who you want to become?
    Me, but more awesome.


    There's not that much about my personality I'd like to change that I can think of. I don't have much of a clear plan for the future, but I'm thinking about working with adolescents with a low SES or a troubled home and make sure they stay out of trouble. I'd like to help solve problems our society has to deal with everyday. As for myself... My dream is to travel a lot, have a boat and keep three Siamese cats and some tarantulas as pets. I always hoped I'd also end up with a nice guy and have three or for kids with him, but I gave up on that, because it's unrealistic (too much competition).
    Too much competition for nice guys? Haven't you been on Reddit, they're full of "nice guys" that get passed over by women.

    All kidding aside, that sounds like a nice life, I wouldn't give up on it yet! I would probably be slightly concerned about having small children, siamese cats and tarantulas all on the same boat though... /e6 problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    Do you have a clear picture of who you want to become?

    No, not at all, and I'm adamantly against forming a picture of what I want to become. I like to think of my personal growth as actualizing who I am, which is a process of revelation, not prescription.

    In very abstract terms, I just went through a cycle of self exploration, and now I'm steering into self-expression.

    Do you have any role models you seek to emulate?

    I find the most admirable thing about anybody is courage and curiosity and openness, which to me is epitomized by Richard Francis Burton.

    Do you keep a journal to monitor your progress?

    Nah, I just pick a direction and go, go, go. I do think back often about where I was a year ago, 5 years ago, 3 months ago...

    Are you happy with your progress thus far?

    YES.
    Wow, this is such an ENFP response Not that it wasn't unique, and your own take, but you know...

    In very abstract terms, I just went through a cycle of self exploration, and now I'm steering into self-expression.
    I know you said "in abstract terms", but what does this mean in concrete terms? How does your self-expression manifest itself?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephano View Post
    Do you have a clear picture of who you want to become?
    I'd say yes. I'm working towards becoming a composer and I'm going to do an education after I left high school.
    This is so COOL!

    Do you have any role models you seek to emulate?
    Hans Zimmer
    I love that guy, I didn't realize it, until someone pointed out all the scores he has done.

    Do you keep a journal to monitor your progress?
    No.
    Nobody does these days

    Are you happy with your progress thus far?
    Not really. I'm currently stuck in a dissatisfying state of life (All work, no play).
    Aww...well stick it out! Just because your work isn't fun, doesn't mean you're not progressing towards enjoyment. Everyone has to pay their dues, you'll make it! Still, that doesn't help you right now....


    Quote Originally Posted by midnight rambler View Post
    Do you have any role models you seek to emulate?

    Of course I do. Hannibal Lector, Henry Hill from Goodfellas, The Joker, Jack Nicholson from the shining.
    Nice choices. You'll be a model citizen in no time!


    In all seriousness though, I like to read about people who accomplished great things and try and take away lessons about them.
    Are we talking like Napoleon, or do you mean great things in a more grounded sense like? What kind of great achievers have you learned the most from?



    Are you happy with your progress so far?

    yea, i'm pretty happy. I'm slowly getting where i want to be.
    Good!

    Anyway, thanks for sharing everyone!

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    Do you have a clear picture of who you want to become? yes, but rather not go into details

    Do you have any role models you seek to emulate? No
    Do you keep a journal to monitor your progress? No but I have a plan written out (my mom helped me, so I can't take full credit)
    Are you happy with your progress thus far? Overall, though there have been set backs
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    Too much competition for nice guys? Haven't you been on Reddit, they're full of "nice guys" that get passed over by women.
    So calles 'nice guys' usually aren't nice at all. I'd rather stay a spinster for the rest of my life than enter a relationship with someone who isn't nice out of pure desperation. Heck, I'm even too un-desperate for Tinder!
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