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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    By 'we' I mean that part of educated humanity who believes Stephen Hawking rather than the Bible.
    What are you talking about? Stephen Hawking leans toward the notion of the pre-big bang aka "M" theory. That we live in a multiverse not a universe.

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    Just out of curiosity, what do you think it means to exist?
    I think therefore I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    By 'we' I mean that part of educated humanity who believes Stephen Hawking rather than the Bible. Just out of curiosity, what do you think it means to exist?
    *rolls eyes*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Flame View Post
    I use science to validate the mystic book and the mystic book to validate science.
    Well If you believe we spawned out of dust then you're not doing it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    What are you talking about? Stephen Hawking leans toward the notion of the pre-big bang aka "M" theory. That we live in a multiverse not a universe.

    I think therefore I am.
    He also believes that time, in our universe, began with the big bang. In that sense, there is no 'before'. To exist means to somehow be part of that universe. If there are other universes, they are differently, they could be said not to 'exist'.

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    *rolls eyes*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    He also believes that time, in our universe, began with the big bang.
    Thanks for proving my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    Well If you believe we spawned out of dust then you're not doing it right.
    No but we spawned from molecules from the earth's carbon cycle.

    The bible isnt going to say,

    "AND HENCEFORTH GOD COMBINED CARBON WITH OXYGEN AND HYDROGEN TO FORM FLESH"

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    I dont believe humanity spawned from 2 humans in a petrie dish with one of them eating an apple when told not to and then suddenly the universe exploded into sin lol

    though that would be interesting to consider...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    If there are other universes, they are differently, they could be said not to 'exist'.
    This is also false because our understanding of how our own universe works, is proven by other universes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    thanks for proving my point.
    If that proves your point, there is no disagreement. I suspect we simply have different definitions of 'true' and 'exist'. But, if Cartesian self-awareness truly is your idea of existence, I think you should have a hard time claiming even as much as you already have.

    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    This is also false because our understanding of how our own universe works, is proven by other universes.
    That does falsify my statement. Many a thing is proven mathematically, and math is entirely made-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Flame View Post
    No but we spawned from molecules from the earth's carbon cycle.
    Didn't you just say you believe in the bible, that we spawned from dust? now I'm confused.

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