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    I know all about it.

    God caused it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    I know all about it.

    God caused it.
    Proof?

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    I know. I am a boring woman who lies in her bed all day, foruming with phantoms.

    This is as much 'proof' as I have:

    Genesis 1:1-5

    In the Beginning, there was a vibration, and an intentional process to create a full world by ALHYM. Everything from the heavens to the earth He created with His breath.
    And the Spirit-filled earth that had become by His breath was nothingness and void, and darkness, misery, and death. He became Ya in the heavens and the earth, and all that is in-between.

    And the breath of ALHYM shook gently on the face of the waters. And called ALHYM, “Let there be Light,” and there was Light.

    And ALHYM joyfully saw all the holy Light was pure and good, and ALHYM separated more firmly and very diligently between the Light, and diligently between the darkness.

    And proclaimed ALHYM the most Light hot, everlasting Daytime, and the darkness He proclaimed a twisting of the light and adversity: Night.

    And the breath of Ya made dusk, and the breath of Ya made dawn, and the dusk commingled pleasantly with the dawn and was united into One; the first day. ~Mary’s translation

    God created everything and God came first. God’s Hebrew name is ALHYM: God Almighty, maker of all things and judge of all men. The M is actually IM, and at the end of words means more than one. Some use this as the basis of the Trinity concept of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. But God is much more than even three, God is any number of manifestations of Himself He chooses to create; He is an infinite God. He is everything. Aleph (A) is the first letter in the Hebrew alphabet, and is silent, giving respect to the One Infinite LORD.

    BRASHYT BRA ALHYM ATH HSHMYM WATH HARTS
    InBeginning Created ALHYM All TheHeavens AndAll TheEarth

    The letter ‘B’ makes the first word in the Bible. This is a divine intention, because B is beyth, the second letter in the Hebrew alphabet. It is quite stunning that this unique monotheistic religion, which was unlike all other religions before it, begins with a beginning. Typically polytheistic religions and cultures believe in a dualism in constant motion, never really beginning or ending. But belief in God necessitates that we believe in a beginning, created by our Majestic Creator.

    There are seven words in the first sentence in the Bible in the original Hebrew. Seven is the most holy number of God and refers to God’s completion cycle. Three is a scriptural number of completion as well, but more at it regards God to man. Three is the numeral used to honor God and His realm, and seven is used from God to us, to help us see when something is holy or complete in Him. ALHYM is positioned as the third word in the first sentence of the Bible. This is significant. Three also denotes a circle because of Pi (3.14), but seven is God’s circle, and implies cycle of completion, in God’s own mysterious way. We still consider seven a ‘lucky’ number and this is likely why.

    ARTS means earth, or more precisely, land or ground. But as the verses continue, it becomes obvious that God is not speaking about many earths, but our earth, which is aptly named Earth. In the translation, we can see this was an intentional process by God. It wasn’t a haphazard event. He wanted to create a full world. He mainly wanted to create a being in His image that could worship and love Him, because God was lonely. So He created the perfect world for man to live in.

    There is a paradox here however. God is speaking about creating Earth, but Earth will not be created for a while yet; until the third day of creation, which is also about 9.3 billion years away. He is using Earth, our world, as the whole context for His intention for Beginning creation. Not unlike how a sculptor might see the finished sculpture within the raw rock. This is how the domain of human beings looked to God as He breathed life into the vast, deep void.

    Consider for a moment how old the Earth became before He finally blessed man by creating him. He had the patience of waiting 8 to 9 billion years to even make the earth, then another 4.5 billion years until the Earth was exactly as He wanted it to be for His greatest Love, us! Think of all the beauty that has been sculpted over time; mountains and waterfalls and coral reefs and beautiful formations, things we revel in. He is the perfect artist and our world is His canvas, and we are His masterpiece. Dinosaurs came and He decimated them, to prepare the land for us, leaving behind rich fossil treasures to incite our imaginations and fill us with awe.

    When one properly places creation in its correct context, it is truly unfathomable that we are the object of all this labor and affection. Man is His last creation, created after everything else, before He rested on the 7th Day, and this correlates to the time line of evolution as well. Nothing new will be created from man on, and the end of the world as we know it is related to us in the last book of the Bible, Revelation. His love by and of and for Himself meant nothing to Him. He waited so long for us, because He wanted everything to be perfect for us. God is Love. Love by itself cannot be fully what it is.

    Love necessarily needs another being which can reciprocate that love for it to come into its full fruition.

    Jesus had to come to remind us what true love is. Jesus was the embodiment of God’s love on Earth. God made us to simply be in love with Him, but man fell from grace and from then on it became difficult for us on Earth, and as a consequence, loving God became more difficult as well.

    Once God begins making His intentional world, once ALHYM (God Almighty) does this first act, in the Hebrew scripture He is immediately referred to as Ya, becoming LORD to all He is creating. He has not created life yet, but He has already established His sovereignty and authority over all. He will not be referred to in the full YHWH until later into the creation story.

    The first thing God made was light. There was no earth yet, just The Deep. In the Hebrew words, AWR means “bright daylight.” Notice the ‘A’ at the beginning? AWR in Hebrew means more than literal light or day, it means God and goodness; pure, holy light. And God joyfully saw that it was pure and good. The Luminaries have not been created yet, coming on Day 4, but the universe is now partially illuminated with light because He created the Big Bang which set the creation story in motion. God then “saw joyfully” that the light was good. Being good, He separated it from the darkness. Then He proclaimed it by calling out its name, YWM, or “Day”.

    This theme repeats itself in the days of creation: He called, it became, He separated, He proclaimed, He named.

    CHSHK is darkness. Once God saw that the light was pure and good, He separated it from the darkness, which He named, “Night,” which is LYLH in Hebrew. It means a twisting of the light, adversity. So this figuratively means Light is good and Night is adversity. The H at the end denotes God’s breath. You make the H sound by breathing out, so it literally means breath. H is sometimes added to words and sometimes not. Here it means that even though the Night can mean adversity, God still made it into being by breathing, and adversity is part of our God-given reality. The L at the beginning means the Most, because the L character in Hebrew is formed by going up above the line of writing, as if it is extending into Heaven. So where darkness twists away the most from the light, there is Night and adversity.

    It is necessary to say that the Hebrews were VERY symbolic people, and every stroke of every letter means numerous things in Hebrew. They even give their letters a numerical value, called gematria, which has more meaning. Many people have studied this extensively and it is interesting to delve into. Since He made Day and Night with Light and Darkness, the days can begin to be counted.

    And the dusk and the dawn made the First Day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    I know. I am a boring woman who lies in her bed all day, foruming with phantoms.

    This is as much 'proof' as I have:

    Genesis 1:1-5


    God created everything and God came first. God’s Hebrew name is ALHYM: God Almighty, maker of all things and judge of all men. The M is actually IM, and at the end of words means more than one. Some use this as the basis of the Trinity concept of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. But God is much more than even three, God is any number of manifestations of Himself He chooses to create; He is an infinite God. He is everything. Aleph (A) is the first letter in the Hebrew alphabet, and is silent, giving respect to the One Infinite LORD.

    BRASHYT BRA ALHYM ATH HSHMYM WATH HARTS
    InBeginning Created ALHYM All TheHeavens AndAll TheEarth

    The letter ‘B’ makes the first word in the Bible. This is a divine intention, because B is beyth, the second letter in the Hebrew alphabet. It is quite stunning that this unique monotheistic religion, which was unlike all other religions before it, begins with a beginning. Typically polytheistic religions and cultures believe in a dualism in constant motion, never really beginning or ending. But belief in God necessitates that we believe in a beginning, created by our Majestic Creator.

    There are seven words in the first sentence in the Bible in the original Hebrew. Seven is the most holy number of God and refers to God’s completion cycle. Three is a scriptural number of completion as well, but more at it regards God to man. Three is the numeral used to honor God and His realm, and seven is used from God to us, to help us see when something is holy or complete in Him. ALHYM is positioned as the third word in the first sentence of the Bible. This is significant. Three also denotes a circle because of Pi (3.14), but seven is God’s circle, and implies cycle of completion, in God’s own mysterious way. We still consider seven a ‘lucky’ number and this is likely why.

    ARTS means earth, or more precisely, land or ground. But as the verses continue, it becomes obvious that God is not speaking about many earths, but our earth, which is aptly named Earth. In the translation, we can see this was an intentional process by God. It wasn’t a haphazard event. He wanted to create a full world. He mainly wanted to create a being in His image that could worship and love Him, because God was lonely. So He created the perfect world for man to live in.

    There is a paradox here however. God is speaking about creating Earth, but Earth will not be created for a while yet; until the third day of creation, which is also about 9.3 billion years away. He is using Earth, our world, as the whole context for His intention for Beginning creation. Not unlike how a sculptor might see the finished sculpture within the raw rock. This is how the domain of human beings looked to God as He breathed life into the vast, deep void.

    Consider for a moment how old the Earth became before He finally blessed man by creating him. He had the patience of waiting 8 to 9 billion years to even make the earth, then another 4.5 billion years until the Earth was exactly as He wanted it to be for His greatest Love, us! Think of all the beauty that has been sculpted over time; mountains and waterfalls and coral reefs and beautiful formations, things we revel in. He is the perfect artist and our world is His canvas, and we are His masterpiece. Dinosaurs came and He decimated them, to prepare the land for us, leaving behind rich fossil treasures to incite our imaginations and fill us with awe.

    When one properly places creation in its correct context, it is truly unfathomable that we are the object of all this labor and affection. Man is His last creation, created after everything else, before He rested on the 7th Day, and this correlates to the time line of evolution as well. Nothing new will be created from man on, and the end of the world as we know it is related to us in the last book of the Bible, Revelation. His love by and of and for Himself meant nothing to Him. He waited so long for us, because He wanted everything to be perfect for us. God is Love. Love by itself cannot be fully what it is.

    Love necessarily needs another being which can reciprocate that love for it to come into its full fruition.

    Jesus had to come to remind us what true love is. Jesus was the embodiment of God’s love on Earth. God made us to simply be in love with Him, but man fell from grace and from then on it became difficult for us on Earth, and as a consequence, loving God became more difficult as well.

    Once God begins making His intentional world, once ALHYM (God Almighty) does this first act, in the Hebrew scripture He is immediately referred to as Ya, becoming LORD to all He is creating. He has not created life yet, but He has already established His sovereignty and authority over all. He will not be referred to in the full YHWH until later into the creation story.

    The first thing God made was light. There was no earth yet, just The Deep. In the Hebrew words, AWR means “bright daylight.” Notice the ‘A’ at the beginning? AWR in Hebrew means more than literal light or day, it means God and goodness; pure, holy light. And God joyfully saw that it was pure and good. The Luminaries have not been created yet, coming on Day 4, but the universe is now partially illuminated with light because He created the Big Bang which set the creation story in motion. God then “saw joyfully” that the light was good. Being good, He separated it from the darkness. Then He proclaimed it by calling out its name, YWM, or “Day”.

    This theme repeats itself in the days of creation: He called, it became, He separated, He proclaimed, He named.

    CHSHK is darkness. Once God saw that the light was pure and good, He separated it from the darkness, which He named, “Night,” which is LYLH in Hebrew. It means a twisting of the light, adversity. So this figuratively means Light is good and Night is adversity. The H at the end denotes God’s breath. You make the H sound by breathing out, so it literally means breath. H is sometimes added to words and sometimes not. Here it means that even though the Night can mean adversity, God still made it into being by breathing, and adversity is part of our God-given reality. The L at the beginning means the Most, because the L character in Hebrew is formed by going up above the line of writing, as if it is extending into Heaven. So where darkness twists away the most from the light, there is Night and adversity.

    It is necessary to say that the Hebrews were VERY symbolic people, and every stroke of every letter means numerous things in Hebrew. They even give their letters a numerical value, called gematria, which has more meaning. Many people have studied this extensively and it is interesting to delve into. Since He made Day and Night with Light and Darkness, the days can begin to be counted.

    And the dusk and the dawn made the First Day.
    As you well know, this 'proof' is no proof at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    As you well know, this 'proof' is no proof at all.
    I did my best. The rest is up to God. Praying for you~

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    Is that really what passes for "best"?

    So much concern about telling people what they need to believe, rather than learning about each other as human beings.

    If God is in charge of converting people, that seems remarkably liberating: You should be able to learn about them and engage as human beings, versus just focusing on whether they conform to your views and thus their "souls can be saved." That's God's job, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    I don't think that's the case because I don't think God doesn't exist.

    It's horrible that you suffered like that, I have too, but don't blame me for taking a belief system ill-suited for humanity and showing just how ill-suited it is.
    Well it sure as hell didn't come across that way. And I AM going to blame you for insinuating that your views are the only viable way and that anything else is ill suited. Do you even realise how fucking arrogant that sounds? You didn't show me jack shit. Prove god exists; oh, that's right, you can't. No one can. Until that happens, I have no reason to believe it.

    You said something that is incredibly insulting suggesting self harm, and shifted the blame away from yourself. That is horrific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Is that really what passes for "best"?

    So much concern about telling people what they need to believe, rather than learning about each other as human beings.

    If God is in charge of converting people, that seems remarkably liberating: You should be able to learn about them and engage as human beings, versus just focusing on whether they conform to your views and thus their "souls can be saved." That's God's job, after all.
    HOW DARE YOU ATTEMPT TO TAKE AWAY PEOPLE'S COMFORTING RESPONSIBILITY OF CONVERTING OTHERS TO THEIR OWN BELIEFS!!!
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    ... sigh... my eyes, my eyes. it burns. oh, it burns.
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