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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    If that's what he meant, he's wrong, because that's not a paradox. It's discounting the value of free will. If you make someone love you, they don't really love you. You need to give them the option not to love you for there to be any value. I don't like what AGA has been saying in this thread, but we need to use better reasoning than her if we want to claim the high ground.
    I think he was using the paradox to illustrate his point (which I interpreted to be as mentioned above after the word paradox in my post) I'm not entirely sure what the actual paradox was, I scanned it and picked out the important parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    @Nihilogen is trying to illustrate a paradox that suggests that if God wanted everyone to be godly, [nongenger third person pronoun] would have made them so; therefore, you shouldn't try and win over others who God has specifically created to be ungodly. (at least that's my interpretation of it)

    Also, I was discussing function archetypes on another thread, and I can say with accuracy that you are most likely an ISFJ who experienced or is experiencing your daemon (hence your mistype as a type with your daemon as the hero).

    The title of this thread screams ISFJ anyways.

    Also, I agree with your point. It is a paradox, regardless.


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    I will share a story. Once I went to take a piss. And then pubic hair fell into toilet. But. It floated cuz toilets sucks ofc. So, pubic hair defied gravity created by God. and then vanished.
    End of Story
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    I totally do not understand what you are trying to say.

    God is in us, dormant or not, as He wishes.

    But we can draw close to Him and He can enter us more fully, become enlivened in us, and cause us to awaken. This depends on our free will to do so.

    The more we allow Him in, open to Him, and not close to Him, the more we can become like Jesus, which should be the goal of every Christian on earth.


    Human beings have wishes too. If "God" wishes, then you are removing God from his infinite position. If we conclude that God wishes, just as we wish, then we can conclude that God is an finite, temporal being because only finite, temporal beings wish.

    But God is not finite, thus he cannot actually "wish" anything.
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    the moral law within me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phobik View Post
    I will share a story. Once I went to take a piss. And then pubic hair fell into toilet. But. It floated cuz toilets sucks ofc. So, pubic hair defied gravity created by God. and then vanished.
    End of Story

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    Quote Originally Posted by krypton1te View Post
    Human beings have wishes too. If "God" wishes, then you are removing God from his infinite position. If we conclude that God wishes, just as we wish, then we can conclude that God is an finite, temporal being because only finite, temporal beings wish.

    But God is not finite, thus he cannot actually "wish" anything.

    Semantics.

    I've said it before, I'll say it again: I use words loosely. Sub in 'choose' 'grace' or any other word implying 'at his discretion'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post


    Also, I was discussing function archetypes on another thread, and I can say with accuracy that you are most likely an ISFJ who experienced or is experiencing your daemon (hence your mistype as a type with your daemon as the hero).
    Quote Originally Posted by krypton1te View Post
    The title of this thread screams ISFJ anyways.

    Good. Maybe that means I will become a better housekeeper/homemaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    God is in us, dormant or not, as He wishes.

    But we can draw close to Him and He can enter us more fully, become enlivened in us, and cause us to awaken. This depends on our free will to do so.

    The more we allow Him in, open to Him, and not close to Him, the more we can become like Jesus, which should be the goal of every Christian on earth.
    I understand you are writing to us while you are in a religious trance.

    And while you are in this trance, you are psychologically vulnerable to suggestion.

    And almost no one here recognises you are in a trance and vulnerable. And no one is trying to make good suggestions.

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    know what we should do? get all the crazies that think they're god's/some higher power's/universe's vessel for truth and quarantine them together, and just watch what happens
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by krypton1te View Post
    The title of this thread screams ISFJ anyways.

    Also, I agree with your point. It is a paradox, regardless.


    AGA... I HIGHLY suggest you read David Hume's Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion, or at least look into Anthropomorphism and reconsider the arguments you are making.
    You and @Alea_iacta_est both wouldn't know an Ni type if brought a ton of matter from the noumenal realm on your heads.

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