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    Quote Originally Posted by Octavarium View Post
    I don't think @AphroditeGoneAwry was saying that people who have a strong bond with both their parents will be bi, just that homosexuals are people who have a particularly strong need to bond with their same sex parent, but don't have that bond. Anyway, in case you were asking me, I'm not endorsing that theory; just pointing out its implications.
    I know you're not, I'm just saying it's a flaw theory
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    I know you're not, I'm just saying it's a flaw theory
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    I know you're not, I'm just saying it's a flaw theory
    This seems like a good article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    It says page not found
    That is very strange. It works perfectly for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    Do you think some of those things I just listed are a little ridiculous though?

    So for example - I wore a wool sweater yesterday. That apparently is a sin.

    I assure you though it was only the finest quality wool.

    Then there was the sushi I had the day before and the escargot that I had the month before that...
    I have reverence for all the Law through the Prophets. Jesus did as well, and commanded that we keep all the Law, and that he came to fulfill it, not abolish it. It was the early Christian church leaders in the first centuries after The Crucifixion that decided the Gentiles needed a watered-down easier version to follow, and hence we have our modern day Christian roots, stemming from pagan-Christianity, versus Jewish-Christianity.

    Anyway, the Law is quite inspired and amazingly beneficial. I have become Kosher myself because the Law speaks about not eating things that are not really healthy for us, like pork and bottom-dwelling seafood. It speaks about not eating fat and blood because those are sacred gifts for God. We know animal fat is unhealthy for us as well! Some things Jesus changed, like stoning adulterers, and divorce, but overall the Law still stands as a wonderful guidebook for our lives! Better than science and psychology can give us! I looked up the bit about mixing linen and wool and this is what I found:

    According to modern biblical scholars, the rules against these mixtures are survivals of the clothing of the ancient Jewish temple and that these mixtures were considered to be holy and/or were forfeited to a sanctuary.[2] It may also be observed that linen is a product of a riverine agricultural economy, such as that of the Nile Valley, while wool is a product of a desert, pastoral economy, such as that of the Hebrew tribes. Mixing the two together symbolically mixes Egypt and the Hebrews. It also violates a more general aversion to the mixing of categories found in the Leviticus holiness code, as suggested by anthropologists such as Mary Douglas.
    I find so much inherent wisdom in the Law, and I know it's divinely inspired because these things were written down over 3,000 years ago!! It is unlikely man was able to know all these things on his own.

    Jesus did put the Law in the proper perspective though. He said it's not so much what goes in your mouth, as what comes out of it that defiles you. He also said to do as the Law says, but not necessarily as the Jews do, for they don't keep the Law very well. Point is, if you follow the Great Commandments "Love God with all your heart, soul, and might" and "Love you neighbor as yourself", that is the essence of Christ's teaching. However, the Law is specific for us so that we might not waver and therefore go astray. It is VERY easy to go astray from God and His Word. The Mitzvot (commandments) are our friends to help us stay obedient to God. They should be viewed with thankfulness to God for making it so clear for us to be holy and righteous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Octavarium View Post
    Do you have any support for your claim that people who didn't have a strong bond with their same sex parent are more likely to be gay?
    Stacey Dooley did a show on gay conversion therapy, and in it she interviewed a psychiatrist/psychologist who had this theory. It resonated with what I know to be true as well.

    Either way, we've established that each person's sexual orientation is caused by factors outside their control; it's at least partially genetic, and even if your bonding theory is correct, we don't get to choose whether we have loving parents. That means no one can be held responsible for which gender(s) they find sexually attractive. We can be held responsible for choosing to act on our desires, but if you believe that 1) God is omnibenevolent, and 2) God considers homosexuality to be a sin, why would you also believe that God created a system in which, through no fault of their own, some people are more tempted to sin than others?
    But if you are a man attracted to men, you now know there is an underlying unmet bonding need. Instead of trying to meet that through sinful behavior that will not even meet your real needs that were unmet in childhood, a person could seek counseling to discuss the pent-up feelings and emotions surrounding not having a good relationship with that parent, and all that entails: rejection, abandonment, abuse, etc.

    I'd suggest this person is not fit for a romantic relationship until he/she explores these issues in depth. Or at least is honest with their partner with the course of their therapy. Then as these feelings are worked through, the person can then explore the idea of relating with a person of the opposite sex.

    I did not say God disallowed this, only that it's unlikely a person will live up to his/her full potential not living as God intended. God made male psychology and physiology to fit perfectly with a woman, and vice versa. He also made a Divine partner for every man--a woman who actually is made of part of that man! So if that man or woman chooses to live a gay lifestyle, he or she is also likely abandoning their ideal Godly partner. This, to me, is a travesty.

    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    The common thing about sin is that it tends to harm others. Being gay doesn't harm anyone.
    Sin is an offense against God. Yes, it might harm others, but the point is that it is against God. It's not up to us to interpret the Law to fit our desires. That defeats the purpose. Though many do, the righteous live to please God, their Creator and Master.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    Do you think some of those things I just listed are a little ridiculous though?

    So for example - I wore a wool sweater yesterday. That apparently is a sin.

    I assure you though it was only the finest quality wool.

    Then there was the sushi I had the day before and the escargot that I had the month before that...



    If your standard for exegesis and means of understanding the Bible is just by determining what seems silly to you and what doesn't then I'm not there's much point in arguing with you, but I'll give it a try.

    Are you part of the nation of Israel???

    If not then those laws don't apply to you. It's as simple as that. The laws in leviticus were maintained for a variety of reasons. They were inclusive of the natural law which pertains to everyone, but went beyond that to include laws that only pertained to israelites. Distinguishing between the natural law present in leviticus and laws specific to Israel really isn't difficult. Especially in this case.

    God never condemned and destroyed a foreign nation because they ate shrimp. He did condemn and destroy people for pursuing unnatural desires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post


    If your standard for exegesis and means of understanding the Bible is just by determining what seems silly to you and what doesn't then I'm not there's much point in arguing with you, but I'll give it a try.

    Are you part of the nation of Israel???

    If not then those laws don't apply to you. It's as simple as that. The laws in leviticus were maintained for a variety of reasons. They were inclusive of the natural law which pertains to everyone, but went beyond that to include laws that only pertained to israelites. Distinguishing between the natural law present in leviticus and laws specific to Israel really isn't difficult. Especially in this case.

    God never condemned and destroyed a foreign nation because they ate shrimp. He did condemn and destroy people for pursuing unnatural desires.
    They apply to you if you are a Jewish-Christian, but not if you are a Pagan-Christian. You are either one or the other. God the Father came before Christ. Unless you ignore the OT and the history of the faith of Christianity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    They apply to you if you are a Jewish-Christian, but not if you are a Pagan-Christian. You are either one or the other. God the Father came before Christ. Unless you ignore the OT and the history of the faith of Christianity.
    No. It doesn't matter whether you're jew or gentile. The temple was destroyed in the first century and so was the nation of Israel and all the laws that went with it.

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