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    Default Power to do Evil v. Power to do Good

    The power to do evil is greater than the power to do good.

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    The power to do good is greater than the power to do evil.

    Discuss.

    (If there is a thread like this, I apologize, but I could not find it.)
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    Evil = easier, Good = more potential to change things, I would say.
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    How are we defining "evil"?
    And how do we define "good"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    How are we defining "evil"?
    And how do we define "good"?
    You may choose. That's the point!

    I do not want to confine your definition; then, it is more interesting.
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    Jennifer, as you're well aware, lots of people have spent their entire lives searching diligently for those definitions, in a form they could firmly believe in.

    In fact, I'm going to guess that there's more to your question than just participation in a forum thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    Jennifer, as you're well aware, lots of people have spent their entire lives searching diligently for those definitions, in a form they could firmly believe in.

    In fact, I'm going to guess that there's more to your question than just participation in a forum thread.
    Precisely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    Jennifer, as you're well aware, lots of people have spent their entire lives searching diligently for those definitions, in a form they could firmly believe in.
    It was less a matter of LL being able to universally define such terms and more about her revealing what her own assumptions were about the question she was asking, so that I would know what sort of answers she was asking for.

    (Sort of like asking the teacher to clarify the test instructions, you know?)
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    The short of it is that I think the power to do good increases the overall power in the world, while the power to do evil decreases the over all power in the world.

    More long-winded version:
    I am going to interpret "good" and "evil" in a more pragmatic way where there are situations where I believe my own "conscience" would deem something evil vs. good.

    Note: what my "conscience" sees as good vs. evil is different from what I "rationalize" to be good vs. evil, and still different from my own desires or impulses. I think of it like a form of perception. Like seeing red vs. blue or balck vs. white, a lot of the same analogies apply.

    This perception is suceptable illusion, and selective blindness. Some will have finer ability to discriminate the "hues."

    In this sense, I think "evil" generally involves the loss of power of someone else. Here I use "power" in very broad terms. The closest definition for this post is the "ability to choose."

    If you kill someone, you take away their ability to choose anything (in this world at least). If you rape someone, you took away their choice of when and whom to participate sexually or emotionally (or in any form) with, and you also took away many physical freedom from them. If you commit any physical violence on someone who is not a willing participant (like in boxing or martial arts), you took away their choice not to be physically harmed. If you rob someone, you take away the choices they would have had with what was taken...

    "Good" on the other hand involves "empowering" other people. Giving them more choices. Saving a life (generally) gives them many more choices to come. Teaching/coaching someone, generally gives them a lot more choices. Giving to someone gives them more choices (usually). But the examples I mentioned are only as good as the amount of "empowering" done.

    Thats the way my "calculus of good & evil" works.

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    I would define good as win/win (and also lose/win), and evil as win/lose (and also lose/lose)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Evil = easier, Good = more potential to change things, I would say.
    I agree. I don't see one power as inherently stronger than the other, in addition.
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