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    Almost all of us learn our religion in a trance as small children.

    And religion is a brilliant trance because it is self validating.

    A self validating trance is called a trance loop. And as we try to escape the trance in one direction, we are drawn back in another.

    Probably the most important thing to realise is that a trance loop cannot be broken by reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Almost all of us learn our religion in a trance as small children.

    And religion is a brilliant trance because it is self validating.

    A self validating trance is called a trance loop. And as we try to escape the trance in one direction, we are drawn back in another.

    Probably the most important thing to realise is that a trance loop cannot be broken by reason.
    Hmm..like soldier in trance. See :47 through 1:00
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    Did you switch / lose / or gain religious belief?

    I gave up religious faith, and the nature of my lack of faith has shifted since.

    What were the involved religions (for example switching from a to b or losing a)

    My parents were both brought up Lutheran, and that's how I was introduced to Christianity, although one was more strict and dogmatic, while the other was more individualistic and progressive. I grew up taking their religious convictions for granted and trying to order my world around what I saw as the implications of those beliefs.

    In all honesty what do you think were the main factors in that process?

    When I was about 16 I started rationally questioning the existence of "God" for the first time, and the whole thing fell apart for me. The more I thought about it, the more I thought the universe around me would probably look the same without a personal interventionist god, and without positive evidence, there wasn't much point asserting one's existence.

    I was also aware that a lot of the religious people around me had big "finding God" moments in their lives, and I just had going along with what I'd been told. I think this growing realisation was the first thing that made me feel out of place as a Christian and made me start questioning.

    Most importantly, I found that my moral code would still function the same way on a secular basis. Every principle I thought was right was right for a good reason, and I didn't need or want an external authority clearing things up for me. So my moral rules didn't change at all. One example was that I thought swearing was crude and should be avoided at all costs, and I didn't start swearing until I was almost 18 and realised that as a general rule it didn't hurt anybody and often served a lot of utility. It took me going through a particularly awful experience to actually swear for the first time, though, finding it the only thing that expressed how I felt.

    If you don't believe what would it take for you to gain belief?

    Strong reasoning, explanatory value, that kind of thing. The necessary irrationality of faith irks me. I don't like the idea of turning off the critical faculties and accepting. If something is true, I should be able to find a rational, intellectual reason to believe it.
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    Ah at first I thought this thread is going to be about weight... it felt weird it was in spirtuality subforum....

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    I decided to practice the Jedi religion because I saw the Star Wars re-release in 1997 when I was in fifth grade and I thought it was awesome.
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    I grew up Christian, though not very willingly. I just did what my parents wanted, and had no reason to go against it.
    By the age of... was it nine? That's when I started questioning the existence of God. But I was scared at the thought of not believing in God because I was fearful of Hell, and so I kept convincing myself I was still a Christian even though it didn't feel right. Two years later I became completely Atheist, and now I am just indifferent to religion. I live without the existence of unverified beliefs. It should be obvious what would change my mind, as for most people like me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winds of Thor View Post
    Hmm..like soldier in trance. See :47 through 1:00
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    Why did I watch that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evee View Post
    Why did I watch that.
    Probably because of your signature

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    My idea of religion just kind of lazily moves through me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever View Post
    Probably because of your signature
    Hah.

    No but seriously that scene makes me so mad. It's unacceptable.

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