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    Nature is harsh, but we have more power than we imagine to counter its effects on ourselves and especially one another. It's easier to create civil/interpersonal systems in imitation of it because hope is hard to maintain long enough to carry a big plan into the implementation phase. It is not always harmful to delay actualization of an original idea, but the motivations for such a delay beg as close philosophical scrutiny as the idea does. Fatiguing feeling (Jungian feeling) out of existence isn't what bureaucracy is for.

    Agree on expectation being pain, but solving the problem internally shouldn't be an excuse to keep that solving power to oneself. Not that anyone suggested that, but responding relationally to RW's thought about letting the world burn in inner peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misty View Post
    Agree on expectation being pain, but solving the problem internally shouldn't be an excuse to keep that solving power to oneself. Not that anyone suggested that, but responding relationally to RW's thought about letting the world burn in inner peace.
    I don't have a problem with inner peace (in regards to meditative-states), but what I do have a problem with is inner peace in regards to the world at large and all of its problems. Internalize the solution first, and then unleash it.

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    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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    "Should you shield the canyons from the windstorms you would never see the true beauty of their carvings." Elisabeth Kubler-Ross

    According to some, pain and suffering helps us grow spiritually. For example, if you suffer from physical pain or a major loss in your life, that'll help you develop compassion for others in a similar situation.
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    If life didn't suck sometimes, how would you appreciate it when it didn't?

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    Because without it we would not exist for long: pain is a biological mechanism to prevent us from dying or accidentally killing ourselves. It indicates where wounds are and alerts us that we need to take extra care of them.

    Perhaps the world is much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    Because without it we would not exist for long: pain is a biological mechanism to prevent us from dying or accidentally killing ourselves. It indicates where wounds are and alerts us that we need to take extra care of them.

    Perhaps the world is much the same.
    When the food's done cooking and the buzzer goes off, no pain is required. So why should life be?

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    Maybe life is painful, because you focus on how painful it is. I don't focus on pain, so I don't see life as painful. Or maybe I'm just an insensitive bastard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    When the food's done cooking and the buzzer goes off, no pain is required. So why should life be?
    When the food is done cooking, the buzzer goes off. The joy of anticipation of pleasure and the fear of the pain of hunger moves one to eat. No pain, no pleasure, no getting your ass off the couch to get your Hot Pocket. You starve and you don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    When the food's done cooking and the buzzer goes off, no pain is required. So why should life be?
    That's true, but that's a learned response. We know to associate buzzer with food being done because we've observed it many times and there is generally not a significantly deleterious consequence for not responding correctly. On the other hand, if you don't attend to your gashed leg quickly, you will die. It has to be unpleasant because you don't get a second chance.

    I guess I just see it as something that evolved to help us survive more than something that was intentionally inflicted upon us, so I don't feel too much despair over it. It sucks but it wasn't something engineered to make my life unbearable.

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