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    Quote Originally Posted by zago View Post
    Oh, and danseen is the guy who started this thread.
    Forever_Jung started this thread…is that danseen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by entpersonal View Post
    I would say I'm balanced in that respect.

    I don't recall making any definitive autobiographical statement there.
    You said man/nature chooses the pursuit of happiness over the pursuit of wisdom. Balance is something I can agree with, from how you've defined it.

    Quote Originally Posted by entpersonal View Post
    Forever_Jung started this thread…is that danseen?
    Got my threads mixed up, was thinking about the "morality" one. That's who danseen is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zago View Post
    You said man/nature chooses the pursuit of happiness over the pursuit of wisdom.
    Usually. It's more that nature favors hedonism and pursuits like food and sex over the pursuit of wisdom, which nature hardly provisions with the same level of "feel-good" brain chemicals. In my estimation, wisdom helps the individual, and if applied his future well-being, more than the species and its continuation per se, commonly defined.

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    It depends on how I define the terms.

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    Happiness is more important. The trouble is sustaining it in the absence of truth. Truth tends to pop out.
    “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
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    If we are in touch with reality, we will be happy in some situations and unhappy in others.

    But those who want to be happy all the time deny reality and seek illusions.

    They seek the illusion of mbti, the illusion of astrology, the illusion of drugs and alcohol, the illusion of sex, and the greatest aphrodisiac of all: power.

    But power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely, so that is why we limit power with liberal democracy.

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    Great topic! I would say they are both equally important, but if I had to choose one over the other, I would pick happiness. There are plenty of wise/knowledgeable people who fail to use their intelligence for their own benefit or that of others due to a lack of confidence or "knowledge" of how to appropriate it. Oftentimes, confidence will get a person further in life than certain types of intelligence, but a balance between the two would be ideal. Still, better to be happy and delusional than wise and miserable.

    Also, many people who esteemed themselves as having attained great knowledge were later discovered to be not as knowledgeable as they had supposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solar Plexus View Post
    better to be happy and delusional
    Is this the kind of person we can trust?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Is this the kind of person we can trust?
    Trust to do what? I'm not running for office here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solar Plexus View Post
    Trust to do what? I'm not running for office here.
    Well, is it wise to marry someone who is happy and delusional?

    Is it wise to have children with someone who is happy and delusional?

    Is it wise to employ someone who is happy and delusional?

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