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    Permit each other to wander where the other roams. To read is to encounter another life. And as Sontag mused, intelligence is really a kind of taste in ideas. Post here earmarkers of your philosophical journey.
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    Consciousness is the latest development of the organic, and hence also its most unfinished and unrobust feature. Consciousness gives rise to countless mistakes that lead an animal or human being to perish sooner than necessary, 'beyond destiny', as Homer puts it. If the preserving alliance of the instincts were not so much more powerful, if it did not serve on the whole as a regulator, humanity would have to perish with open eyes of its misjudging and its fantasizing, of its lack of thoroughness and its incredulity - in short, of its consciousness; or rather, without the instincts, humanity would long have ceased to exist!

    Nietzsche, Die fröhliche Wissenschaft (The Gay Science), 1882
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    "Having already been through the terror of birth and life, I can sincerely tell you that I do not fear dying, nor being dead. I am somewhat comforted in knowing that I am dying, and that one day I will be dead. What worries me, in a much more profound sense, is the possibility that I might be reborn, and have to relive that terror." - Saudade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saudade View Post
    "Having already been through the terror of birth and life, I can sincerely tell you that I do not fear dying, nor being dead. I am somewhat comforted in knowing that I am dying, and that one day I will be dead. What worries me, in a much more profound sense, is the possibility that I might be reborn, and have to relive that terror." - Saudade
    You have a memory of your birth? You have already been through life? Then, you must already be reborn to comment on it so.

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    The greatest weight. -- What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: "This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more; and there will be nothing new in it, but every pain and every joy and every thought and sigh and everything unutterably small or great in your life will have to return to you, all in the same succession and sequence -- even this spider and this moonlight between the trees, and even this moment and I myself. The eternal hourglass of existence is turned upside down again and again, and you with it, speck of dust!" Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: "You are a god and never have I heard anything more divine"


    From Nietzsche's The Gay Science, §341

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    "God is absolutely perfect, perfection being understood as the magnitude of positive reality in the strict sense, when the limitations or the bounds of those things which have them are removed. There where there are no limits, that is to say, in God, perfection is absolutely infinite." - Gottfried Leibniz

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    “However, the struggle with that sentinel is, as a rule, not so hard as it may seem from a long way off, mainly in consequence of the antagonism between the ills of the body and the ills of the mind. If we are in great bodily pain, or the pain lasts a long time, we become indifferent to other troubles; all we think about is to get well. In the same way great mental suffering makes us insensible to bodily pain; we despise it; nay, if it should outweigh the other, it distracts our thoughts, and we welcome it as a pause in mental suffering. It is this feeling that makes suicide easy; for the bodily pain that accompanies it loses all significance in the eyes of one who is tortured by an excess of mental suffering. This is especially evident in the case of those who are driven to suicide by some purely morbid and exaggerated ill-humor. No special effort to overcome their feelings is necessary, nor do such people require to be worked up in order to take the step; but as soon as the keeper into whose charge they are given leaves them for a couple of minutes, they quickly bring their life to an end. When, in some dreadful and ghastly dream, we reach the moment of greatest horror, it awakes us; thereby banishing all the hideous shapes that were born of the night. And life is a dream: when the moment of greatest horror compels us to break it off, the same thing happens.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saudade View Post
    "Having already been through the terror of birth and life, I can sincerely tell you that I do not fear dying, nor being dead. I am somewhat comforted in knowing that I am dying, and that one day I will be dead. What worries me, in a much more profound sense, is the possibility that I might be reborn, and have to relive that terror." - Saudade
    Very nice. My dad said about exactly the same thing when I was younger and didn't understand. He's right and so are you. Eventhough I'm thoroughly able to enjoy life occasionaly, the idea of reïncarnation seems like an absolute horror to me.
    Luckily there's absolutely no reason to assume such a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miauwington View Post
    Very nice. My dad said about exactly the same thing when I was younger and didn't understand. He's right and so are you. Eventhough I'm thoroughly able to enjoy life occasionaly, the idea of reïncarnation seems like an absolute horror to me.
    Luckily there's absolutely no reason to assume such a thing.
    Means a lot coming from you, thanks.

    I wrote that a couple years ago.

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    "The mind is everything. What you think you become." - Buddha

    Picked that one out a hat. I like the economical ones.

    A reminder that you can think your way to fulfillment.

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