Atheists celebrating Christmas.

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[Anna Jorovic]

I know a lot of atheists- or people who do not believe in God- or the miracle birth of Jesus, who celebrate Christmas.

Trees, lights, presents- the whole nine yards.

This is strange to me.

What gives?

I'm an agnostic. Definitely not a Christian.

I agree, it's absurd. I don't do the whole Christmas thing.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Christians (sort of) took it from the pagans.

Atheists are taking it back lol.

Anyway, I think it's become a cultural thing that transcends any one religion or belief system.

 

[Anna Jorovic]

Christians (sort of) took it from the pagans.

Atheists are taking it back lol.

Anyway, I think it's become a cultural thing that transcends any one religion or belief system.

Why not change it to "World Winter Superday" then or something?

 

[Anna Jorovic]

I don't believe in fairies either, yet people wouldn't go around considering my lack of faith that fairies live in gardens is the same as someone who believes they do, it is simply a lack of belief.

There's more evidence for fairies than you might think haha.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Why not change it to "World Winter Superday" then or something?

I'd be fine with that. I'll continue to put the World Winter Superday Tree up every year and won't have to listen to southern evangelists telling me I shouldn't celebrate if I'm not saved by jesus.

 

[Anna Jorovic]

I'd be fine with that. I'll continue to put the World Winter Superday Tree up every year and won't have to listen to southern evangelists telling me I shouldn't celebrate if I'm not saved by jesus.

The great thing is that World Winter Superday would happen twice a year, once in December/January, and again in June/July.

Now there's misplaced confidence - Jesus couldn't even save himself!

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Now there's misplaced confidence - Jesus couldn't even save himself!

True. Maybe we should change it to Batmanmas then.

 

[Anna Jorovic]

True. Maybe we should change it to Batmanmas then.

Even his survival looks a bit touch-and-go at times.

Father Christmas - now there's a survivor! Oh crap, that means we'd have to change it back to Christmas Day...

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Even his survival looks a bit touch-and-go at times.

Father Christmas - now there's a survivor! Oh crap, that means we'd have to change it back to Christmas Day...

World Winter Superday still sounds better.

 

[Anna Jorovic]

World Winter Superday still sounds better.

Agreed.

 

[Kasper]

World Winter Superday still sounds better.

World =\= northern hemisphere despite popular US beliefs.

Was 43c here yesterday (110 for the murikans) "winter day" would be a commercial failure, which lets face it, is a core Christmas aspect!

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

World =\= northern hemisphere despite popular US beliefs.

Was 43c here yesterday (110 for the murikans) "winter day" would be a commercial failure, which lets face it, is a core Christmas aspect!

yeah but...

The great thing is that World Winter Superday would happen twice a year, once in December/January, and again in June/July.

 

[danseen]

Depends, we atheists should be banned from celebrating Christmas. (I don't believe in laws, but there you go..)

People like fun, such is humanity/life.

 

[Habba]

Christmas is a christian winter holiday celebrating a jew who was born in september. Christians tend to celebrate this jew by eating non-kosher food (such as pork) and decorating a tree unfamiliar to judea (a spruce). In honor of Jesus' "Cleansing of the Temple", they celebrate his birth with commercial activities. The very pinnacle of this most holy celebration is of course the weird gift-sharing bearded guy flying with reindeer-driven sledge (completely different guy than that Odin guy who would race across the sky with wild animals after the winter solstice and bring gifts to kind children), just like in the bible.

 

[AzulEyes]

Tradition is one of those things that develop over time- and though Christmas has SO MANY traditions attached to it----- I am finding that disecting the origins of certain traditions to discredit Christmas as being sort of hypocritical. So .... we have 'pagan' traditions which makes something 'pagan.' Yet- Christmas is not allowed to have been built upon any traditions that came before the birth of Christ? Then--- what would they be building upon?? NOTHING? If I am to start a new tradition right this moment- it will start from SOMETHING. Perhaps---- it will start with my Ipod. Because I own an iPod. So then- will my celebration get discredited in some way having to do with the origin of iPods, Apple, the fact that Steve Jobs was born into a Muslim family ... I mean... so WHAT if some of the traditions of trees and ornaments and whatever started out as Pagan? That is all Christians KNEW before Christ was born.

It's fine if someone who does not believe in Christ to celebrate Christmas- I believe in freedom of thought. But I'm just saying- a lot of discrediting Christmas has gone on in this thread and I don't buy it.

 

[danseen]

I buy presents and eat mince pies. I find fatty foods taste better than healthy ones, i could eat mince pies everyday.

 

[skylights]

Tradition is one of those things that develop over time- and though Christmas has SO MANY traditions attached to it----- I am finding that disecting the origins of certain traditions to discredit Christmas as being sort of hypocritical. So .... we have 'pagan' traditions which makes something 'pagan.' Yet- Christmas is not allowed to have been built upon any traditions that came before the birth of Christ? Then--- what would they be building upon?? NOTHING? If I am to start a new tradition right this moment- it will start from SOMETHING. Perhaps---- it will start with my Ipod. Because I own an iPod. So then- will my celebration get discredited in some way having to do with the origin of iPods, Apple, the fact that Steve Jobs was born into a Muslim family ... I mean... so WHAT if some of the traditions of trees and ornaments and whatever started out as Pagan? That is all Christians KNEW before Christ was born.

It's fine if someone who does not believe in Christ to celebrate Christmas- I believe in freedom of thought. But I'm just saying- a lot of discrediting Christmas has gone on in this thread and I don't buy it.

The point is simply that the holiday of Christmas as we know it doesn't necessarily "belong" to Christians any more than it does to anyone else who possesses some connection to it, be that historical or whatever else. It's nothing against Christians who celebrate it, just proof that it is a tradition and phenomenon that reaches beyond the bounds of Christianity.

 

[LEGERdeMAIN]

so WHAT if some of the traditions of trees and ornaments and whatever started out as Pagan? That is all Christians KNEW before Christ was born.

jews

 

[LEGERdeMAIN]

agnostic atheist, dislikes holidays due to holiday music, holiday spirit-pushing, associated commercialism