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    Whenever I live in a predominantly Muslim country, people (friends, neighbours) invite me countless times to eat at their home during the Eid (Aïd) week. It's a major religious holiday for Muslims, and unlike the Ramadan, it's a very sympathetic and joyful one -unless you're a sheep of course!-.

    Yet, I make no mystery of my religious opinions, (almost) all my friends know it. But they still continue to invite me, and we share a good time together, and that's all that matters. Nobody told me that my presence was a disgrace in the face of Allah. And nobody tried to convert me either.

    And it's quite the same with the Couscous in North Africa every friday. Fridays are supposed to be the day of the jumu'ah, the day of worship, and thus you have special traditions and eating habits. And even when you're not Muslim, well... you eat Couscous every friday.

    It doesn't seem to create any problem at all. Why should it?
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    Jesus is not the reason for the season.

    Fuck Little Ceasars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    Jesus is not the reason for the season.

    Fuck Little Ceasars.
    Actually, the 25th december was first designed to celebrate the birth of Mithra. And the event was already rather similar to Christmas.
    When Christians invented the mythical person they name Jesus (who never existed at all), they just borrowed everywhere around, everywhere they could. Nothing, even myths, legends and new religions, comes from nothing with a sudden revelation.

    It's so obvious, but it seems most Christians never figured why their faith had so many coincidental and similar events with previous religions. They don't realise they worship in fact Mithra and the Sun God during Christmas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    Actually, the 25th december was first designed to celebrate the birth of Mithra. And the event was quite similar to Christmas.
    When Christians invented the mythical person they name Jesus (who never existed at all), they just borrowed everywhere around, everywhere they could.

    It's so obvious, but it seems most Christians never figured why their faith had so many coincidental and similar events with previous religions. They don't realise they worship in fact Mithra and the Sun God during Christmas.
    I wouldn't give two shits if they had the birth of Jesus on tape and a court order announcing the celebration of his birth to be December twenty-fifth every year.

    I like to party and Christmas is mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    When Christians invented the mythical person they name Jesus (who never existed at all), they just borrowed everywhere around, everywhere they could.
    I thought the consensus among most historians is that there probably was a reform rabbi Jehoshua ben Joseph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post
    I thought the consensus among most historians is that there probably was a reform rabbi Jehoshua ben Joseph.
    Who still is not the guy the Bible talks about, because that guy is god's son.

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    IME holidays kind of suck when you're the mom. The only really fun part of Christmas for me is giving presents. The other stuff is mostly just extra work. I am so glad my kids are big enough that I don't have to go to school Christmas programs anymore. I hope I don't get roped into going to the Christmas program at my brother's church this year. I don't want to have to pretend to like it again until I have grandkids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Who still is not the guy the Bible talks about, because that guy is god's son.
    Well, I never claimed he was. Don't forget that I too am an atheist. I was referring to the debate over whether or not that person ever lived ... just like some people claim Socrates never lived and was a literary invention by Plato.
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    No one cares what Christmas was originally for anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Bubble View Post
    No one cares what Christmas was originally for anymore.
    This is why it should just be a secular thing if that's what it's going to be.

    All that holiday hoopla associated with Jesus isn't exactly his style I don't think.

    Makes the good feels that come with it extra grimy IMO.
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