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    Default Why ISN'T morality subjective?

    I think this irks a lot of people, but to me at least (perhaps this is the "no rules" INTP part of me talking haha.) this is how I see it:

    - IMO, subjectivism is meant in a cosmological sense. I don't know of any universal moral law
    - I personally believe in equal rights for all, no matter who you are. But had I lived in early modern times, pre the Enlightenment, I may not have thought this.

    So then, how isn't morality subjective?

    IMO, I personally don't give a shit lol.. "Morals" are spent.

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    I would think most people with the ability to think would come to the same conclusion.

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    OK, yes, let's have some nice people answer this thread? hahah!!

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    Morality is opposed to Self-interest. The latter is subjective, so the former is not.

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    You still beleive in objective morals.

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    morality is subjective

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typh0n View Post
    You still beleive in objective morals.
    No, since anything goes in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danseen View Post
    I think this irks a lot of people, but to me at least (perhaps this is the "no rules" INTP part of me talking haha.) this is how I see it:

    - IMO, subjectivism is meant in a cosmological sense. I don't know of any universal moral law
    - I personally believe in equal rights for all, no matter who you are. But had I lived in early modern times, pre the Enlightenment, I may not have thought this.

    So then, how isn't morality subjective?

    IMO, I personally don't give a shit lol.. "Morals" are spent.
    My intellectual side came to this conclusion a long time ago.
    My emotional side still can't comprehend it.
    I just settle midway and go with existentialism...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    My intellectual side came to this conclusion a long time ago.
    My emotional side still can't comprehend it.
    I just settle midway and go with existentialism...
    Do you understand why I told the OP that he still believes in objective morals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danseen View Post
    I personally believe in equal rights for all, no matter who you are.
    I recall reading "What is qualitatively different can never be equal" So, I'd have to disagree. All I can think of is the revolution of formula, that enabled women the option to pursue a career instead of nursing.... Only in that equation the baby is left with inferior health, both physical/ nutritional and psychological/ nurturing. Also, it has been said that “Our experiences teach us that psychological differences among people are the cause of misunderstandings and problems. We can overcome these problems only if we accept psychological differences as a law of nature and appreciate their creative value. This would also enable us to gain an objectice comprehension of man and human societies, unfortunetely, it would also teach us that equality under the law is inequality under the law of nature.”
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