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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    My professor in Philosophy 101 taught me how to be intellectually provocative in order to enliven debate.

    The price for being intellectually provocative is sometimes a strong negative affect. In other words intellectual provocation can induce negative emotions towards the provocateur.
    Still not sure why Lark hates you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typh0n View Post
    Still not sure why Lark hates you.
    Lark is a Northerm Ireland Roman Catholic. He is caught up in the age old hostility between Northern Ireland Protestantism and Northern Ireland Catholicism.

    And here I come along drawing attention to the Judicial Enquiry of the Irish Government into child abuse in the Roman Catholic Church. So Lark naturally saw me as a tribal enemy.

    This of course is silly as I live on the other side of the world and take no part in the Troubles of Northern Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typh0n View Post
    You still beleive in objective morals.
    Saying that morality is subjective is an absolute.

    Nihilists are simply more honest about things than subjectivists.

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    I have no idea how anyone can say morality is subjective. Those people ALMOST (almost) deserve to have to live in concentration camps for saying something like that, 'cause it is like spitting in the face of 1) the people who have fought for the better world of today and 2) everyone who has suffered at the hands of grossly immoral people.

    These idiots don't even think living in a death camp is different than living in historically unprecedented liberty and prosperity. LITERALLY. That's actually sickening. "It's all just an opinion man. What if someone WANTS to live in a death camp? It's all subjective. Hitler is technically just as good as George Washington." RIGHT. RIIIIIIIIIGHT. I mean how stupid can you possibly be?

    There is a right and a fucking wrong god dammit. FUCK people who think morality is subjective.

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    So hate modern society... lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zago View Post
    I have no idea how anyone can say morality is subjective. Those people ALMOST (almost) deserve to have to live in concentration camps for saying something like that, 'cause it is like spitting in the face of 1) the people who have fought for the better world of today and 2) everyone who has suffered at the hands of grossly immoral people.

    These idiots don't even think living in a death camp is different than living in historically unprecedented liberty and prosperity. LITERALLY. That's actually sickening. "It's all just an opinion man. What if someone WANTS to live in a death camp? It's all subjective. Hitler is technically just as good as George Washington." RIGHT. RIIIIIIIIIGHT. I mean how stupid can you possibly be?

    There is a right and a fucking wrong god dammit. FUCK people who think morality is subjective.
    Of course.

    We came as close as possible to absolute evil in the holocaust. As a result we drew up the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

    However those who wish to draw near absolute evil once again have openly and publicly rejected the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in favour of Sharia.

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    Absolute evil? can somebody prove that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zago View Post
    I have no idea how anyone can say morality is subjective. Those people ALMOST (almost) deserve to have to live in concentration camps for saying something like that, 'cause it is like spitting in the face of 1) the people who have fought for the better world of today and 2) everyone who has suffered at the hands of grossly immoral people.

    These idiots don't even think living in a death camp is different than living in historically unprecedented liberty and prosperity. LITERALLY. That's actually sickening. "It's all just an opinion man. What if someone WANTS to live in a death camp? It's all subjective. Hitler is technically just as good as George Washington." RIGHT. RIIIIIIIIIGHT. I mean how stupid can you possibly be?

    There is a right and a fucking wrong god dammit. FUCK people who think morality is subjective.
    Agreed

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    This paper pretty much hits the nail on the head, if you ask me (Does Anything Really Matter Or Are We Just Evolved To Think So)

    @danseen - this also applies to the Western Morality thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zago View Post
    [This paper pretty much hits the nail on the head, if you ask me
    Isn't that paper arguing morality is subjective? Here's it's concluding sentence (bold mine):

    Nothing “really” matters in the sense of mattering independently of the attitudes
    of living beings who take things to matter (nothing is objective), but the nice fact is that living beings evolved, began
    taking things to matter (subjectively decided to value things), and thereby made things matter
    I read this as morality is subjective, but hey, that's a good thing.

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