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    Pride explains ego-based evil, but there's id and superego based evil. To get a little more concrete, eliminating pride wouldn't solve pedophilia.

    (attn IXTPs: Don't quote me to talk shit about Freud - that's not the point)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Pride explains ego-based evil, but there's id and superego based evil. To get a little more concrete, eliminating pride wouldn't solve pedophilia.

    (attn IXTPs: Don't quote me to talk shit about Freud - that's not the point)
    I think of ego as a broad term to mean something like self importance. So I've thought for awhile that all unethical situations result from one person having an exaggerated sense of self importance. An ethical situation is where there is a balance of power. That's my version of Taoism applied to ethics.

    Edit: So pride or ego in the negative sense would be an imbalanced ego; a balanced ego is good thing.

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    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

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    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    I heard someone say this yesterday? Do you agree? Not agree? Why?
    I could really dig into this, but in short, this statement feels slightly off to me. I dig the paradoxical nature of pride being a source of great good and great evil, so that's not my issue. Pride just isn't enough of a fundamental drive, I think. Pride is just a reward mechanism and motivator to acquire status and resources. It's the drive for status and resources, left unchecked, that seems to be the true root of evil.

    What keeps that drive in check? I'd say empathy. When we feel someone else's pain and motivations, and view them as a fellow human being that shares our struggles and desires, it becomes harder to wrong them. It's been shown that money and power both decrease empathy, which may be why "money is the root of all evil" and "power corrupts".

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    I think child abuse is probably at the root of most evil.

    Read this:
    http://www.alice-miller.com/articles_en.php?nid=47

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    I feel as though egocentricity is more of a root. (That can lead to child abuse and other crimes).
    It's not just pride, but being unable to think of everyone around you as actual people with real lives and feelings. Sort of like you're the main character and everyone else are just disposable extras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Pride explains ego-based evil, but there's id and superego based evil. To get a little more concrete, eliminating pride wouldn't solve pedophilia.

    (attn IXTPs: Don't quote me to talk shit about Freud - that's not the point)

    Freud was wrong about stuff. LOL penis envy and mom-fucking.
    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Pride explains ego-based evil, but there's id and superego based evil. To get a little more concrete, eliminating pride wouldn't solve pedophilia.

    (attn IXTPs: Don't quote me to talk shit about Freud - that's not the point)

    Freud was wrong about stuff. LOL penis envy and mom-fucking.

    Actually, I really like the idea of an ego, id, and superego. Just because a physical correlation hasn't been discovered yet doesn't mean it's necessarily invalid.
    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


    This is not going to go the way you think....

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    Pride does not equate to confidence nor faith.

    Pride is an emotional attachment to a quality or ability in possession.

    Fuck pride.

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