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    Quote Originally Posted by funtensity View Post
    The purpose of life is to propagate life.

    We are here to save the world. You essentially have two ways of doing this. 1) reproduce 2) spread some epic humanity-saving and propagating memes.
    Then what role does evolution play in this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Then why doesn't everybody work?
    Everyone works, to some degree. When they, or 'it', stops working, so does the person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    Everyone works, to some degree. When they, or 'it', stops working, so does the person.
    Isn't work just motion with a purpose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Then what role does evolution play in this?
    If I told you that the purpose of life was to help the universe reach its heat death as soon as possible, what utility would that have?

    I like to think that the purpose of life is to try to spread life everywhere throughout the universe. I like to think the the universe is one big thermodynamic cycle and that the purpose of life is to gain enough control over the universe that in its next phase life re-emerges, or never goes extinct.

    But these are just daydreams. Most proximally, you have to decide that the purpose of life is to live an awesome life, and to spread that joy by ensuring that life will continue to exist.

    IMHO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Isn't work just motion with a purpose?
    I don't know, I'm thinking myself in circles. More information required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Some people say that life just is, and that the individual person gives it purpose.

    However, if life HAS a purpose, a UNIVERSAL purpose, what could it be?
    There are two ideas about life.

    The first is teleological meaning that life has a purpose.

    The second is that life is the eternal return meaning that everything is happening over and over again.

    So the first is that life has a direction, and the second is that life is circular.

    So the Abrahamic religions are teleological, that is, they have a beginning and a final end. And the Hindu religion says life is circular, going round and round and round again.

    So religions of the Book are teleological just like books themselves with a beginning, a middle and an end.

    And spoken religions are aural where everything happens at once.

    So literate societies are teleological while the electronic society we are entering is the eternal return.

    Of course we are blinded to what is happening around us, and keep asking, like mad newts, what is the purpose?

    But of course the circular view of life has no purpose. Purpose is irrelevant to the eternal return. The circular life has its own values, which we will discover as we go round once again.

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    Nobody told me in Vent not to post this.

    Glycerine: nothing wrong with that
    RaptorWizard: theres something wrong with pretty much everything, but thats good and bad. bad because the world sucks, but good because theres also positive challenges
    Glycerine: i say whatever to most of it!
    RaptorWizard: if only we had cheat codes...
    Risen: dont cheat on life
    RaptorWizard: ya, i dont let it bother me too much, but i also dont want it to stay
    'Maddy' has left the chat.
    Risen: that bitch will cut your dick off
    Glycerine: thanks for the imagery
    Glycerine: :P
    Risen: ur welcome :P
    Risen: has anyone here seen enders game?
    Risen: im thinking of going tonight
    RaptorWizard: i read the book 5 years ago
    Glycerine: I don't want to live a shallow life but I don't want to think too hard and be miserable either.
    Glycerine: i havent seen the movie
    RaptorWizard: yes, well i seek to take big cosmic dragons and the mind of god
    Risen: i just
    Risen: wanna find peace
    RaptorWizard: i wont succeed in this life, but i can lay foundations for untold world chaos
    RaptorWizard: fuck god and his accursed natural order of madness
    Risen: who says u wont succeed?
    Risen: only u can decide that
    Glycerine: thats amazing in its simplicity, risen i like it
    RaptorWizard: i said not in the life...
    RaptorWizard: future lives though it may be
    Risen: weird
    RaptorWizard: yoda likes peace
    Risen: lost myself in darkness
    Risen: and thats where ill find myself
    Glycerine: i just want to succeed in my endeavors ad be relatively happy. I am somewhat smart but don't feel bothered to prove myself to others
    RaptorWizard: i need to prove it to myself more than anyone, but anyone makes it better because its shared. but i guess it starts with self-belief
    Glycerine: type c taught me that awhile back
    Risen: what am I fighting for?
    RaptorWizard: liberation maybe?
    RaptorWizard: break your chains and rise
    Risen: and then what
    RaptorWizard: build and explore i guess, but were too limited to clearly know what, good question
    Glycerine: I figure why waste a whole bunch of mental energy on others when I can i do some soul-searching and use the mental energy for whatever pat i choose
    Glycerine: *path
    Risen: when you rise to the top, who will be there to greet you?
    Risen: or will there be anyone?
    RaptorWizard: its good to have many paths i think for everyone, as long as they dont hurt others paths
    RaptorWizard: why is the top the end though
    Glycerine: risen, was that for me?
    Risen: it was general
    Risen: perhaps rhetorical
    Glycerine: ahhh
    RaptorWizard: its always better to win on the road
    Risen: ill keep fighting unto the ends of the earth
    Risen: because the world ends with you
    'Risen' has left the chat.
    RaptorWizard: can i post this vent convo people in the purpose of life thread by Mal+?
    RaptorWizard: no objections? okay then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    Nobody told me in Vent not to post this.

    Glycerine: nothing wrong with that
    RaptorWizard: theres something wrong with pretty much everything, but thats good and bad. bad because the world sucks, but good because theres also positive challenges
    Glycerine: i say whatever to most of it!
    RaptorWizard: if only we had cheat codes...
    Risen: dont cheat on life
    RaptorWizard: ya, i dont let it bother me too much, but i also dont want it to stay
    'Maddy' has left the chat.
    Risen: that bitch will cut your dick off
    Glycerine: thanks for the imagery
    Glycerine: :P
    Risen: ur welcome :P
    Risen: has anyone here seen enders game?
    Risen: im thinking of going tonight
    RaptorWizard: i read the book 5 years ago
    Glycerine: I don't want to live a shallow life but I don't want to think too hard and be miserable either.
    Glycerine: i havent seen the movie
    RaptorWizard: yes, well i seek to take big cosmic dragons and the mind of god
    Risen: i just
    Risen: wanna find peace
    RaptorWizard: i wont succeed in this life, but i can lay foundations for untold world chaos
    RaptorWizard: fuck god and his accursed natural order of madness
    Risen: who says u wont succeed?
    Risen: only u can decide that
    Glycerine: thats amazing in its simplicity, risen i like it
    RaptorWizard: i said not in the life...
    RaptorWizard: future lives though it may be
    Risen: weird
    RaptorWizard: yoda likes peace
    Risen: lost myself in darkness
    Risen: and thats where ill find myself
    Glycerine: i just want to succeed in my endeavors ad be relatively happy. I am somewhat smart but don't feel bothered to prove myself to others
    RaptorWizard: i need to prove it to myself more than anyone, but anyone makes it better because its shared. but i guess it starts with self-belief
    Glycerine: type c taught me that awhile back
    Risen: what am I fighting for?
    RaptorWizard: liberation maybe?
    RaptorWizard: break your chains and rise
    Risen: and then what
    RaptorWizard: build and explore i guess, but were too limited to clearly know what, good question
    Glycerine: I figure why waste a whole bunch of mental energy on others when I can i do some soul-searching and use the mental energy for whatever pat i choose
    Glycerine: *path
    Risen: when you rise to the top, who will be there to greet you?
    Risen: or will there be anyone?
    RaptorWizard: its good to have many paths i think for everyone, as long as they dont hurt others paths
    RaptorWizard: why is the top the end though
    Glycerine: risen, was that for me?
    Risen: it was general
    Risen: perhaps rhetorical
    Glycerine: ahhh
    RaptorWizard: its always better to win on the road
    Risen: ill keep fighting unto the ends of the earth
    Risen: because the world ends with you
    'Risen' has left the chat.
    RaptorWizard: can i post this vent convo people in the purpose of life thread by Mal+?
    RaptorWizard: no objections? okay then!
    Why do you post reasons not to do Vent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Why do you post reasons not to do Vent?
    If people in a vent convo don't want something posted from the discussion, then the mods won't allow it. I was met with no resistence however, so post I did.

    And hey, here's another great life goal - there's nothing that we can't do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    If people in a vent convo don't want something posted from the discussion, then the mods won't allow it. I was met with no resistence however, so post I did.

    And hey, here's another great life goal - there's nothing that we can't do!
    I'm not saying that. I'm saying that it makes Vent look like an undesirable place to go.
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    “Culture?” says Paul McCartney. “This isn't culture. It's just a good laugh.”

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