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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    I have no interest in doing so. I'm sure it appeals to those with limited reasoning capacity or a sense of powerlessness looking for a "quick fix" too.

    Lots of people buy snake oil.
    It appeals to folks with an interest in power dynamics.

    Why must anyone with an interest in something you disagree with suffer from sociopathy, or have a limited reasoning capacity?

    Is it just too painful to consider the fact that there maybe validity to their perspective?

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    Yes. I can see the kind of people it appeals too. Strangely, my opinion is unchanged.
    I don't evaluate the legitimacy of ideas based on readership or authorship but on merit alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    I don't evaluate the legitimacy of ideas based on readership or authorship but on merit alone.
    Then why mention that you think readers of this particular book are sociopaths, or must have a lesser capacity for reason than yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Then why mention that you think readers of this particular book are sociopaths, or must have a lesser capacity for reason than yourself?
    This conversation is dull, like all conversations with you. I did not do that. Read harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    This conversation is dull, like all conversations with you. I did not do that. Read harder.
    Oh please...

    You said that anyone who isn't a sociopath, would be able to see the lack of charm in the book (read lack of value).

    Inferring that anyone who has an interest in the book, or enjoys it, is a sociopath.

    You then further stated that the book would appeal to those with limited reasoning capacity (inferring that your capacity is superior given your ability to judge the lessers who would read the book).

    Thereby you have framed the discussion in such a manner that:

    A) you agree with salami and don't enjoy the book.

    or B) you enjoy the book and are either 1) a sociopath and/or 2) dumb.

    So it looks like in this discussion one either agrees with you, or is a dumb sociopath worthy of the utmost contempt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    It appeals to folks with an interest in power dynamics.
    An interest in stereotypical, often backfiring but apparently appealing strategies to deal with power dynamics, I'm afraid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    An interest in stereotypical, often backfiring but apparently appealing strategies to deal with power dynamics, I'm afraid.
    I haven't made any statement as to the validity of the laws in the book (to be honest I've never read this one, but I have read Greene's Art of Seduction).

    Books like this are almost always better when used as a source of information as opposed to an etched in stone code to live by.

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    "Should", not would. READ HARDER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    "Should", not would. READ HARDER.
    The debate frame is the same.

    You are personally attacking those who disagree with you as usual.

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    I'm not amoral. I have a moral code that I take pretty seriously, but it's some combination of Ti and Fe. Trying to incorporate too much Fi stuff just kind of stresses me out. I don't have that much of a place for idealism, anymore, because I don't think I'm cut out for it. I just have too much pessimistic Si, I just bring down the people who are all about that stuff down.

    I'm very susceptible to guilt, too, so if I think something is going to make me feel guilty, I try not to do it, because I don't like feeling guilty.
    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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