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    jumping in - sorry if this was said before...

    but take two extremely different methods of trying to validate faith:

    one version of fatih can actually be essential to progress - while the scientific method demands a culture of doubt, do you really think individual scientists & teams spending decades of their lives trying to prove a theory (or disprove it's contradictions) are doing so without faith that it is true, despite the obvious fact that they can't yet prove it?

    in the same time, there are others who strive to validate their faith through either the ostracizing of those who'd cast doubt on it and the belittling or outright killing of those who'd disagree with.

    the difference isn't the factor of faith, it's in the sanity and reason of those who hold it.

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    Faith offers certainty to the insecure, while sceptisism offers new knowledge to the secure.

    So faith is a neurosis of the psychologically insecure, while scepticism is the strength of the psychologically secure.

    And those suffering from a neurosis need to explore their neurosis with a professional psychologist.

    So therapy is the answer to faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
    one version of fatih can actually be essential to progress - while the scientific method demands a culture of doubt, do you really think individual scientists & teams spending decades of their lives trying to prove a theory (or disprove it's contradictions) are doing so without faith that it is true, despite the obvious fact that they can't yet prove it?
    Scientists don't so much have faith in theories, as in our own ability to validate or disprove them and understand what is going on. We all get hunches and visions, but know too well how inaccurate they can turn out to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
    one version of fatih can actually be essential to progress - while the scientific method demands a culture of doubt, do you really think individual scientists & teams spending decades of their lives trying to prove a theory (or disprove it's contradictions) are doing so without faith that it is true, despite the obvious fact that they can't yet prove it?
    What is interesting is that scientists believe the universe is intelligible.

    Of course they can't prove the whole universe is intelligible, and perhaps there are parts of the universe that are unintelligible, but nontheless scientists can infer that the whole universe is intelligible.

    This is a very large and important inference to make, and makes science possible.

    So perhaps we could say scientists have faith we can understand the universe. And why this is so is an interesting question.

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    I suppose believing that everything can be understood is its own kind of faith in a way.
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    Faith is a noun. It exists in the realm of human thought, but does not exist in actual reality.
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