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  • Mormons have good values.

    8 50.00%
  • Mormons have the truth.

    2 12.50%
  • Mormons are Christian.

    5 31.25%
  • Mormons have bad values.

    3 18.75%
  • Mormons don't have the truth.

    7 43.75%
  • Mormons aren't Christian.

    6 37.50%
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    Default Mormonism - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism

    What are your thoughts on this religious movement?

    Here's the 13 articles of faith Mormons live by as a basic outline of their beliefs:

    1.We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

    2.We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.

    3.We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

    4.We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    5.We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.

    6.We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

    7.We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.

    8.We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

    9.We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

    10.We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

    11.We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

    12.We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

    13.We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul-We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

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    It's a cult.

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    I think Mormons go overboard in some ways but all the ones I know in person are super nice, try really hard to be good people, work at self-improvement, care about their families and communities, etc.

    For example, my sister just got married to a woman with a very religious Mormon extended family. It was really sweet to me, to see her aunt helping with the flower arrangements, tying bows around the chair covers (and see her husband on a step ladder, stringing up lights from the rafters) for the party/reception... doing all the sort of home-makey, crafty, beautiful things that Mormon women do, but to support her niece's lesbian marriage, which is not something the Mormon church is quite ready to support. I suspect she was a little outside her comfort zone, but she was really so heartwarmingly conscientious, pitched in where help was needed, and seemed really glad that she could contribute to the special day.

    Every religion has its sort of "iffy" doctrines and historical moments, just that Mormonism's are much more recent and less widely-accepted.
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    I voted that they have good values/the truth, but obviously not exclusively, and of course there is some sticky stuff, so my answer was more overall.
    Your kisses, sweeter than honey. But guess what, so is my money.

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    I have known relatively few Mormons, and all have been odd in some way. The women were the pushiest, bossiest women I have ever known. They refused even to consider dating men who were not Mormons, and who had not gone on Mormon Mission. The men mentioned odd habits which they attributed to their faith, like not drinking hot beverages. To his credit, one of them mentioned being uncomfortable on mission, since he didn't think it his place to tell other people what to believe or how to worship (which would contradict item 11 in the OP anyway). He said he was relieved that his group was mostly ministering to an existing congregation, so less push to seek converts. All of them seemed to have this blind obedience to everything they were taught growing up, and everything they were expected to do to "live right".
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    I think the Mormon church is an absolute joke, I wasn't buying it at age 8. (I think all organized religion is an absolute joke though, so I'm not picking on Mormonism.)
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    Not Christian.
    As much as Protestants, Roman Catholics, and Eastern Orthodox disagree on things they all affirm the early creeds that established what Christianity fundamentally is and Mormons contradict those along with all of their additional teachings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saudade View Post
    It's a cult.
    True, they do indeed have funny rituals that they keep secret, supposedly because it's "sacred".

    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    I voted that they have good values/the truth, but obviously not exclusively, and of course there is some sticky stuff, so my answer was more overall.
    Well ya, on the whole I agree that they're generally good people, but that doesn't make their beliefs complete.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    I have known relatively few Mormons, and all have been odd in some way. The women were the pushiest, bossiest women I have ever known. They refused even to consider dating men who were not Mormons, and who had not gone on Mormon Mission. The men mentioned odd habits which they attributed to their faith, like not drinking hot beverages. To his credit, one of them mentioned being uncomfortable on mission, since he didn't think it his place to tell other people what to believe or how to worship (which would contradict item 11 in the OP anyway). He said he was relieved that his group was mostly ministering to an existing congregation, so less push to seek converts. All of them seemed to have this blind obedience to everything they were taught growing up, and everything they were expected to do to "live right".
    Unfortunately, mamy Mormons seems to have these negative traits of close-mindedness and lack of exploration, but still, some of it helps to keep them "safe" (even it it limits expansion).

    Quote Originally Posted by mooseantlers View Post
    I think the Mormon church is an absolute joke, I wasn't buying it at age 8. (I think all organized religion is an absolute joke though, so I'm not picking on Mormonism.)
    I was actually born into the Church and baptized at age 8, and parts of the faith may or may not have value, but ultimately, I really don't care whether or not my name is on "the list".

    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    Not Christian.
    As much as Protestants, Roman Catholics, and Eastern Orthodox disagree on things they all affirm the early creeds that established what Christianity fundamentally is and Mormons contradict those along with all of their additional teachings.
    Well, they aren't Christian by all traditional biblical standards, but they do still believe in God and Jesus as living entities that can shine the way to the kingdom.

    It's interesting how people see the Mormons from such a different perspective. They tell me all of the time that they're on a different plane from most people, which is kind of funny, because in most other ways, they're quite mediocre. I still think though that the church has good values.

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    They aren't theologically Christian, but use most of the Christian terminology. They have some good family values - as good as most any Christian group. I know and respect some strongly Mormon individuals. I've also know some rigorously controlling ones that did some rather disturbing things like baptizing a man who had rejected their faith his entire life even though he married a Mormon woman. When he was too old, feeble, and partly senile, they baptized him. That was a deep violation of a person's will.

    Edit: I spent ages 11 until I went to college deep in Mormon country. In seventh grade I spent one year at a school where I was literally the only kid who wasn't Mormon. Their culture is a lot like the church I grew up in, although the two churches wouldn't like that comparison. ha.
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    @fia hmm, that's interesting how you've had so much exposure to their ways, and seen how restrictive they can be. God instead wants us to be free.

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