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    Quote Originally Posted by mingularity View Post
    Is that solipsism?! Our imaginations exist in reality! http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/The_m..._the_territory
    The "natural world" is a map, not the territory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkgraffiti View Post
    @mingularity what is your job may i ask?
    Psychic. That said you shouldn't believe what I say just because I can see behind the curtain. I hope for my arguments to live or die on their own merits. Tis the way of nature. Science!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    The "natural world" is a map, not the territory.
    What's the territory?

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    On the Marvel Avengers game on facebook I'm fighting a bunch of baddies who have a warcry "for science" and like were wastepaper bins on their heads!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mingularity View Post
    Psychic. That said you shouldn't believe what I say just because I can see behind the curtain. I hope for my arguments to live or die on their own merits. Tis the way of nature. Science!
    Good. I'm a scientist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mingularity View Post
    I hope for my arguments to live or die on their own merits.
    lol. you rip that from Jung's Ti profile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    The "natural world" is a map, not the territory.
    The analogy makes a good deal of sense, the mind being a map and the environment being the territory. A map is only as good as the cartographer, which is why the external world is territory and not a map. The external world cannot be charted wrong, as a mountain is never in the wrong place.

    (disregarding quantum mumbo jumbo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    lol. you rip that from Jung's Ti profile?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jung
    When the time comes for him to transplant his ideas into the world, his is by no means the air of an anxious mother solicitous for her children's welfare; he merely exposes them, and is often extremely annoyed when they fail to thrive on their own account.
    Closest I could find

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    a vague dread of the other sex also belongs to this category.
    Back to "the natural world" - how is that a map? It refers directly to the territory, where everything is natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolita View Post
    Edit: But I would say that science is the study of everything. Everything > science. It's just our attempt at explaining it.
    Science is a method, a way of learning about the world around us. The facts discovered and theories developed are the products of the process of science. The same methods of observation and objective analysis can indeed be applied to the non-physical world. They are not sufficient for its understanding, but they can contribute to it. As Richard Feynman put it, science is "a way of not fooling ourselves".
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