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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    What do you think about this?

    I've known people who've attacked and dumped one belief system as irrational or mistaken or wrong but adopted what appears to be a more crazy or zany one in its place, I mentioned a guy I knew at university briefly who was a fundamentalist roman catholic who then became, via Spainish history, a fascist, I've known other people who have left the religious congregations or churches traditions of their family or parents but then gravitated towards evangelical groups, cults or fundamentalisms.

    Do you think there's an underlying character structure which makes for this sort of thing or is it entirely to do with context, peer pressure, peer direction or culture and memes?
    It sounds to me like why they said the left a belief behind, and why they really did are two different things. That's why their stated reason and actions don't add up.

    I suppose the answer to your question lies in whether or they are primarily lying to themselves or everyone else. Self deception is largely an internal affair, while lying to others is likely to be much more based in peer pressure or just an unwillingness to share with, or confide in, those around them.

    Either way, I think a person individual personality woulf be very influential in how they respond to such pressures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    What do you think about this?

    I've known people who've attacked and dumped one belief system as irrational or mistaken or wrong but adopted what appears to be a more crazy or zany one in its place, I mentioned a guy I knew at university briefly who was a fundamentalist roman catholic who then became, via Spainish history, a fascist, I've known other people who have left the religious congregations or churches traditions of their family or parents but then gravitated towards evangelical groups, cults or fundamentalisms.

    Do you think there's an underlying character structure which makes for this sort of thing or is it entirely to do with context, peer pressure, peer direction or culture and memes?
    A need for certainty.

    One thing nutty belief systems seem to have in common is circular set of beliefs that provide an irrational certainty in the face of countervailing evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    A need for certainty.

    One thing nutty belief systems seem to have in common is circular set of beliefs that provide an irrational certainty in the face of countervailing evidence.
    Indeed, very often true!
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