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    I was seduced by Martin Heidegger when I was young and innocent, but I was brought back to reality by an Australian philosopher, who I would run into at the local shops.

    He was Professor John Passmore who wrote The Perfectibility of Man, 1970, which is more about imperfectibility rather than perfectibility, and is the perfect corrective to German Romanticism and American gasconade.

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    Philosoraptor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    He uses aphorisms and literary tools, all the existentialists were the same, I think it makes them easier to read and perhaps closer to what the general public thinks of when it talks about philosophy or philosophising, or maybe I'm just thinking of myself at the age of seventeen and my circle of friends at that time when everyone was forging their outlooks on life.

    Although there's a lot of talk about Freud and psychoanalysis being only of literary merit, I take all that with a pinch of salt, I listened to audiobooks and other sources from when cognitivism was in vogue and it said that the unconscious or subconsciousness doesnt exist and that's been reversed.
    Although some people may label him as one, I think it's safe to say Nietzsche was no existentialist. Also, at least in my opinion, people who really were existentialists such as Sartre, Kierkegaard, and Unamuno were certainly not all the same. They may have had some similarities, but their differences could be very great.

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    Confucius. Unless you can consider Hammurabi a philosopher, in which case it's a tie.
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    Marx.

    His utopian world view brought more damage to the world than any other ideology except for national socialism.
    Marx saw poverty and despair and wanted to change it for good, but good intentions rarely bring about anything good, as a saying goes.
    One of the big problems with Marxism is its theory of economics. Giving the means of production soley into the hands of society, which translates to government, doesn't encourage growth and innovation. The self-interest of the capitalist to make money provides the population with useful stuff such as smartphones, TVs, etc. We wouldn't have those things if not for capitalism.
    Also through constant competition it is ensured that corporations invest in research to be one step ahead of their competitors which leads to a fast technological advance.

    The wealth of the western world that came along in the 20th century was not achieved through labor unions or taxing the rich, but by price-reduction of industrial goods.
    For example, the average income per household didn't increase since the 80s in Germany, although the spending capacity is now much higher than back then. That can only be traced back to the cheaper production of goods.

    In marxist planned economies such as Soviet Russia or Cuba all those things didn't happen, or weren't allowed to happen if you will. They slithered down, after an initial increase of wealth through redistribution, into even more poverty because the slowly growing economy couldn't supply the growing population.

    So please, any hipster commie who takes pride in how "smart" he or she is because he has read the communist manifesto (I know a few of these people) or the girl who tweeted a photo of her holding a sign "resist capitalism" shot with a brand-new iPhone, grow up.
    If you lose your job nowadays you get on welfare. Poverty has literally been been eradicated in the western world, there's no need for a proletarian revolution.
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    I'd say Hegel is my least favorite philosopher. I tried hard to get meaning from his philosophy, but ultimately came to the conclusion that it was of no benefit. It is easy to see why he fell out of favor in the late 19th century and has never really come back in vogue. It just seems like yet another form of pantheism to me. It is also easy to see why Kierkegaard despised Hegel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephano View Post
    Marx. His utopian world view brought more damage to the world than any other ideology except for national socialism.
    I share your view of the philosopher Karl Marx except to say that National Socialism killed 12 million of their own people over 7 years, including 6 million Jews, while the International Communism of Karl Marx killed 100 million of their own people** across the world, over 70 years.

    ** The death toll of International Communism across the world over 70 years is documented in the book The Black Book of Communism written by six Left Wing French historians, click on http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Boo...kcommunism.pdf

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    Plato.... so overrated.

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    I'm kind of tired of Alan Watts

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    For me, Descartes is a pretty good contender. He claimed that animals lacked consciousness and performed live dissections on them. Another disgusting human being is Thomas Aquinas, who said that he looked forward to going to heaven and watching people get tortured in hell.
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