This is a thread which I've envisaged believers being able to discuss their experiences of their beliefs, I've created it because I'd like to see if there's anyone can relate to some of my experiences living in what I consider is a non-believing culture and world in which belief is consistently run down in a way which is far more insidious than most of the examples of propaganda in history.
I reckon the answer a question leave a question format is a good idea for threads like this.
What does anyone think about movies like The Invention of Lying? I thought that film was alright, I hate Ricky Gervais, I think she's shite and his humour is shite, although I thought this movie took a seriously bad turn with its "mansions for everyone" and "man in the sky" attack on religion, although I dont think this is limited to this movie by any stretch of the imagination, its the dumbfuck "I'm too clever for this" approach to religion and generations upon generations of thinking and I hate it.
Although its not considered to be dumbing down in the normal fashion, most people, I'm even betting most people on this forum, would see it as clever and enlightened commentary. I also know of lots of young people watch this sort of thing and treat it like hard facts, then through peer pressure and group dynamics go out eliminating anything besides the opinions they've seen in what's meant to be a comedy feature.
I never see atheism or non-believers, of any sort, satirised in the same manner.
You couldnt satirise algebra or mathematics in the same way but at the bottom of it all those things are based upon unproveable axioms, that drove Bertrand Russell mad or nearly did but that's how it is. I dont think that the satirising of mathematics or algebra would be as big a deal because those things are not bound up with ethics, morals and societal expectations in the same way but its still knowledge.
This bothers me, not because of a lack of respect, I dont think anyone is entitled to respect and I also think that people who are desperate for it, especially upon criteria to do with their beliefs, particularly religious beliefs, could be the ones with the problem, especially if it preoccupies too much of their time, energy and personal resources. It bothers me because it seems very symptomatic of the world becoming increasingly stupid and satisfied with being that way.
I reckon the answer a question leave a question format is a good idea for threads like this.
What does anyone think about movies like The Invention of Lying? I thought that film was alright, I hate Ricky Gervais, I think she's shite and his humour is shite, although I thought this movie took a seriously bad turn with its "mansions for everyone" and "man in the sky" attack on religion, although I dont think this is limited to this movie by any stretch of the imagination, its the dumbfuck "I'm too clever for this" approach to religion and generations upon generations of thinking and I hate it.
Although its not considered to be dumbing down in the normal fashion, most people, I'm even betting most people on this forum, would see it as clever and enlightened commentary. I also know of lots of young people watch this sort of thing and treat it like hard facts, then through peer pressure and group dynamics go out eliminating anything besides the opinions they've seen in what's meant to be a comedy feature.
I never see atheism or non-believers, of any sort, satirised in the same manner.
You couldnt satirise algebra or mathematics in the same way but at the bottom of it all those things are based upon unproveable axioms, that drove Bertrand Russell mad or nearly did but that's how it is. I dont think that the satirising of mathematics or algebra would be as big a deal because those things are not bound up with ethics, morals and societal expectations in the same way but its still knowledge.
This bothers me, not because of a lack of respect, I dont think anyone is entitled to respect and I also think that people who are desperate for it, especially upon criteria to do with their beliefs, particularly religious beliefs, could be the ones with the problem, especially if it preoccupies too much of their time, energy and personal resources. It bothers me because it seems very symptomatic of the world becoming increasingly stupid and satisfied with being that way.