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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I suppose this might raise the interesting further question about whether or not you would betray your human culture if it were invading another alien civilisation, if the role was reversed?
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    Because humans never invade other civilisations. Only in sci-fi fantasy could such a thing happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Because humans never invade other civilisations. Only in sci-fi fantasy could such a thing happen.
    So do you think the limitations of humanity will stop it from ever expanding or even encountering other civilisations?

    I'm of the view that the universe is perhaps too vast for us to expand into before we destroy ourselves, besides the variables in what form another sentient species might take on another planet are incomparably numerous.

    Although having said all this, humanity is about as special as fermented milk cheese, since both are a collection of cells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoraMayhem View Post
    In an instant.
    So you wouldnt betray another alien culture and would betray your human culture if it was invading an alien world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    So do you think the limitations of humanity will stop it from ever expanding or even encountering other civilisations?

    I'm of the view that the universe is perhaps too vast for us to expand into before we destroy ourselves, besides the variables in what form another sentient species might take on another planet are incomparably numerous.

    Although having said all this, humanity is about as special as fermented milk cheese, since both are a collection of cells.
    Are you saying that for shits and giggles or are you serious? If you're serious in what sense do you mean that?

    I think that sci fi has been a uniquely brilliant medium for reflections upon humankind as a whole and the cosmos. That's before you get onto the whole inner space genre like PKD's work.

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    We're special because we are acutely aware of our own mortality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    So you wouldnt betray another alien culture and would betray your human culture if it was invading an alien world?
    Wait, I said I'd betray any culture that wanted to invade any other culture.
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    I wouldn't shun a civilisation who wanted to conquer another species. In the end an unpleasant journey could give birth to a more favourable outcome and watching humanity be enslaved may be difficult but it would make available new possibilities. My opinions are merely that.

    In regards to asking whether humanity is special my answer is that it is different from the other life here but special in some hypothetical galactic community? I reckon we would be mediocre.

    In regards to whether an alien would favour humanity over its own species that is down to a) its pre-disposition to attachment and sentiment b) its level of exposure and c) whether a and b conflict with a seperate group of attachment and sentiment. It's easy to say they would defend humanity if their other object of attachment could remain unharmed but what if they had to choose and one must die with the alien species facing extinction if it cannot conquer? I think most would turn away from their human exposure and help the aliens (difficult decisions is where we show what we truly are.)

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    Considering that if I were an alien, raised in an alien culture, I'd have a completely different background and would have been raised in a different set of mores and beliefs, how could I even answer that? I wouldn't be me, so there's no way to know that

    On the other hand, humans are only special in fiction because the producers of the fiction are humans and the fiction is produced to be consumed by other humans. What's the point of existing if we aren't special is the idea behind it, I guess.
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    Aliens are likely to have different senses than we do. And so we would have difficulty in just perceiving one another, never mind understanding one another.

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