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    Quote Originally Posted by murkrow View Post
    Dude you had better pray no feminist you date ever reads this.
    But he wouldnt date them - they have body hair, remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    Do you live in the U.S.? I ask this, because I was not aware of a trend requiring men to share body hair. And beards have made a comeback among generation Y, deservedly so.

    If anyone would ask me to shave my body hair, I would tell them to fuck off. I'm more negotiable about the beard, but I prefer it, and I think it's actually softer then a chin full of stubble.

    I don't particular care if a woman has hairy arms or legs. It honestly does not bother me. The only hair on a woman that would really bother me would be facial hair. I think that's fair, because it's not something that's common in women, so it's somewhat less arbitrary than legs, and god forbid, bush. I can't be the only guy who is turned on by bush. It's just so primal.

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    No I don't live directly in the U.S. The attractive hairy man phase sorta died off in the late 80's early 90's (David Hasslehoff) usually now days in the media you will see some bulk guy completely shaved especially in sports like pro wrestling and MMA were the guys have to take their shirts off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexicon View Post
    @bold- You're assuming they're not just because they're challenging an element of imposed expectations of them by [not] altering their appearance, are you not? Sure it's easy to get grouped in with stupid people who just bitch about their oppression/hatred of men, & all they do is fail to shave, but again.. it's painfully obtuse to assume you know those what those people do with their spare time. I'm sure some of them are active in the feminist community.

    I get the feeling you're just overall aggravated and jaded by things around you. I can't say I blame you, but at the same time, a lot of people have more depth than you might be willing to give them credit for, at first glance.
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    I could have gone on a day trip to a river yesterday but it was too short notice and I didnt have a razor and haven't shaved in a couple weeks so I didn't go I felt kinda stupid about it.

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    Buncha posts moved to the OT thread. murkrow banned from thread.

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    Well, I think it's sort like how a guy could shave or not shave and no one would particularly care. But if a woman doesn't shave it's "disgusting" or "gross". It's just another double standard.

    I shave my legs because I like the way it feels, but if I had my way I wouldn't shave under my arms. I only do it because I exercise a lot. It kind of hurts, and I have dark shadows, anyway. I think body hair is kind of sexy. And besides, the same men who are all "I like girls in sweat pants and 'no' makeup, just looking natural," can't fathom a woman keeping her natural body hair. It's less a "feminist issue" and more an "I hate stupid social constructs" thing.
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    I know this thread started out as a discussion about body hair and feminism.

    But, I wanted to see if perhaps people wanted to talk about it broader context (feminism, not body hair).

    I am curious, mainly, in how feminism fits in generally within the context of human rights, reproductive rights, equality, and sexuality.

    I see women's rights as a good exemplar of human rights around the globe. Especially, in cases where oppression, and lack of freedom are the paramount issues.

    I also think I have a good understanding of feminism's relationship to reproductive rights and equality. I think the only people who disagree with them do so for religious or cultural reasons.

    I am, however, confused about its relationship to sexuality.

    I read about 2nd and 3rd wave feminism. The characature is that one deems sexual imagery as exploitive of women, and the other sees it as a potential means of empowerment.

    Any thoughts on the above? Anyone with deeper insights into this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    I read about 2nd and 3rd wave feminism. The characature is that one deems sexual imagery as exploitive of women, and the other sees it as a potential means of empowerment.

    Any thoughts on the above? Anyone with deeper insights into this?
    If sexual imagery is pornography, we know what to think, because pornography is the graphic representation of the brothel.

    We have made a first step in improving the brothel by legally registering sex workers so they can unionise, are subject to health and safety regulations, and are protected by police.

    The second step has been made by Sweden, that while keeping sex work legal, the purchase of sex is illegal.

    The purpose and effect of steps 1 and 2 is to limit the power of men and increase the power of women, one step at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    I know this thread started out as a discussion about body hair and feminism.

    But, I wanted to see if perhaps people wanted to talk about it broader context (feminism, not body hair).
    I am interested in the broader question of appearance, going beyond body hair to clothing, (head) hairstyles, jewelry, piercings, body art, even colors used. There is less objection nowadays to men wearing earrings, or women with tattoos. But a man in a skirt is still mostly viewed as a spectacle (unless it's a kilt), while a woman can get away with wearing traditionally masculine clothing. Then there is the question I raised elsewhere, of why in a given setting, women dress to leave much more exposed skin than men. Why? Why to all of it??? What if anything do these choices say about inherent male/female differences, or cultural conditioning, or feminism/rebellion?
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