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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    Have you guys ever been to Europe? lots of non feminist women don't shave are you serious? and you call me closed minded?
    MISDIRECtION this has nothing to do with the thread we never said anything about people in europe. so you're assuming we did. dude seriously....

    you're not fighting fair at all. I don't want to play if you're gonna sling slanderous mud

    and yes I've been to europe. and you're actually contradicting yourself. btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    MISDIRECtION this has nothing to do with the thread we never said anything about people in europe. so you're assuming we did. dude seriously....

    you're not fighting fair at all. I don't want to play if you're gonna sling slanderous mud

    and yes I've been to europe. and you're actually contradicting yourself. btw

    How am I contradicting myself? and why?, do people in Europe not live on this planet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexicon View Post
    It's still generally not considered acceptable/attractive for women to forego shaving in the USA, though. If people are challenging that here by doing what they want- what's the big deal?
    Not a big deal at all just don't claim you're a feminist simply by not shaving. My guess is that a true feminist would be involved in creating change by other non superficial means. My concern is that Americans tend to be superficial. Their image is so important to them that they classify themselves into a market or a niche. Americans are the biggest sheep of them all these days no one stands up for what they believe in, it's all controlled by corporations telling you how to behave through the media. Instead you are classified by your market group so you can buy and support the machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    Not a big deal at all just don't claim you're a feminist simply by not shaving. My guess is that a true feminist would be involved in creating change by other non superficial means. My concern is that Americans tend to be superficial. Their image is so important to them that they classify themselves into a market or a niche. Americans are the biggest sheep of them all these days no one stands up for what they believe in, it's all controlled by corporations telling you how to behave through the media. Instead you are classified by your market group so you can buy and support the machine.
    @bold- You're assuming they're not just because they're challenging an element of imposed expectations of them by [not] altering their appearance, are you not? Sure it's easy to get grouped in with stupid people who just bitch about their oppression/hatred of men, & all they do is fail to shave, but again.. it's painfully obtuse to assume you know those what those people do with their spare time. I'm sure some of them are active in the feminist community.

    I get the feeling you're just overall aggravated and jaded by things around you. I can't say I blame you, but at the same time, a lot of people have more depth than you might be willing to give them credit for, at first glance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexicon View Post
    @bold- You're assuming they're not just because they're challenging an element of imposed expectations of them by [not] altering their appearance, are you not? Sure it's easy to get grouped in with stupid people who just bitch about their oppression/hatred of men, & all they do is fail to shave, but again.. it's painfully obtuse to assume you know those what those people do with their spare time. I'm sure some of them are active in the feminist community.

    I get the feeling you're just overall aggravated and jaded by things around you. I can't say I blame you, but at the same time, a lot of people have more depth than you might be willing to give them credit for, at first glance.
    Capitalist society puts a lot of emphasis on image and marketing unlike in other countries like Europe where it doesn't matter as much things are sort of more accepted overall. Not conforming to "image" aka hairy armpits to me sounds more like a rebellious attention seeking way of disagreeing with the system. You're right I could be wrong with my assumptions simply due to the fact I don't know them well enough but for me it raises suspicion as to what their true motivations are.

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    Feminism is an analysis of power relations between women and men.

    Of course talking about body hair is trivialising this analysis, just as patriarchy trivialises women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    Would you like a guy with a hairy back or chest? Isn't the trend now days for both men and women to shave?
    Do you live in the U.S.? I ask this, because I was not aware of a trend requiring men to share body hair. And beards have made a comeback among generation Y, deservedly so.

    If anyone would ask me to shave my body hair, I would tell them to fuck off. I'm more negotiable about the beard, but I prefer it, and I think it's actually softer then a chin full of stubble.

    I don't particular care if a woman has hairy arms or legs. It honestly does not bother me. The only hair on a woman that would really bother me would be facial hair. I think that's fair, because it's not something that's common in women, so it's somewhat less arbitrary than legs, and god forbid, bush. I can't be the only guy who is turned on by bush. It's just so primal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    What does having hairy arm pits and hairy legs have to do with feminism I fail to see this.
    Whether to shave one's armpits and legs is a matter of personal taste, just like what one wears, how one styles one's hair, whether one uses makeup or gets a tattoo, etc.

    How much choice one has in such aspects of personal appearance is a decent indicator of how much personal freedom one enjoys. A feminist who dislikes hairy armpits and legs will probably express herself in other ways.
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    Dude you had better pray no feminist you date ever reads this.
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    Not all feminists do the "don't shave". I know a few (it happens when you do liberal arts at uni) and some are of the symbolic anti-shave-don't-conform-to-societal-and-media-ascribed-forms-of-beauty, others do shave. It's about the ability to express yourself without having to conform to specific views.

    My lack of shaving in winter is pure laziness. I mean, it's cold, i'm in pants or jumpers ALL THE TIME, no one see's my skin besides the poor bastard who has to sleep with me.

    Plus, on a personal note (if it's oversharing - sorry), i have short, fine, blonde body hair, all of it, so you don't really even see leg or pit hair unless you're up close. I think if i had darker body hair i would be more motivated to keep it off, as i do prefer (personally) the look of bare skin. But i don't so i'm lazy.

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