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    Quote Originally Posted by murkrow View Post
    I think if you'd put forth your understanding of what does qualify as feminism we'd have a way easier time of this.

    But to answer your question:

    The expectation of women to shave their arms and legs while men are expected not to betrays an unrealistic understanding of femininity. In other words the standards for women as demonstrated by those norms are not derived from the natural state of a woman. Instead, they're drawn from some other ideal which while it may be desirable for any number of reasons (pedophilia) is not a natural human female.

    Now you might say men are expected to shave their beards but it's certainly not considered contrary to masculinity to grow a beard. However when a woman allows her body to do its thing she's considered less of what she is a living example of.
    Having hairy legs and armpits IS NOT FEMINISM. It's as superficial as someone with a shaved head claiming to be neo nazi. I disagree with the pedophilia statement having no hair on your body has nothing to do with pedophilia whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexicon View Post
    I'm gonna take a wild guess and assume it's a simple, nonverbal statement combating standards of beauty imposed upon women.
    Perhaps these women never liked the time it takes to remove body hair, or people's negative reactions when they refused to conform. Staying hairy might be more comfortable for them, & an opportunity to say 'fuck you' to those who find it offensive.

    (personally I always hated body hair on myself, but if hippies or feminists [or whoever] wanna be fuzzy, good for them)

    My hippie friend doesn't shave (she trims sometimes, apparently). She's a lazy INTP; it's not for a cause, or anything. She's happy that way, & her boyfriend doesn't care (she wouldn't care if he did).

    I found it extremely amusing when we went to an amusement park last summer, & these teenage boys in line were overtly checking her out.. she was oblivious, just talking, etc. She did a big stretch upward with her arms at one point, displaying her tufts- & the boys went from horny to horrified in seconds.
    I could imagine other people getting a kick out of that^ sort of shock value, in of itself, & being motivated to grow their own, ha.
    YEah but she's just being lazy she's not claiming to be a feminist, that's fine. I have a problem with women who base feminism on just that quality. I believe these women who decide not to shave do it for the attention and reaction from others more so than for a feminist statement.

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    Nobody says having hairy legs and armpits is feminism, lol. It can be an act motivated by feminism, though. Or just laziness. Or not having enough money for razors. Personally, I don't shave my pits because it makes them itch. I am also a feminist but that's not why I do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    YEah but she's just being lazy she's not claiming to be a feminist, that's fine. I have a problem with women who base feminism on just that quality.
    Oh. I never knew any feminist chicks who didn't shave, who considered that to be their main contribution toward their cause. It was just a very small part of expressing it, or simply motivated by it.

    I know there are people out there who "dress the part" for a particular movement, but don't really do much about it. Yeah, I could see that as silly/irksome, but I try not to judge/categorize too quickly. I don't know what the hell most people do with their free time, & it's equally absurd for me to draw such conclusions. /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexicon View Post
    Oh. I never knew any feminist chicks who didn't shave, who considered that to be their main contribution toward their cause. It was just a very small part of expressing it, or simply motivated by it.

    I know there are people out there who "dress the part" for a particular movement, but don't really do much about it. Yeah, I could see that as silly/irksome, but I try not to judge/categorize too quickly. I don't know what the hell most people do with their free time, & it's equally absurd for me to draw such conclusions. /shrug
    I'm not saying all feminists do it but from the one's that I've seen all the non shavers claimed to be "feminist".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    I'm not saying all feminists do it but from the one's that I've seen all the non shavers claimed to be "feminist".
    Do you think that's the entire basis of their feminism? I would say that's unlikely. Consider that you might not be privy to all of their thoughts and feelings and positions on everything.

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    wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. wait. did they tell you they were feminist, or did you just assume so?
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Do you think that's the entire basis of their feminism? I would say that's unlikely. Consider that you might not be privy to all of their thoughts and feelings and positions on everything.
    It doesn't matter if it's likely or unlikely it has nothing to do with feminism my point is you are just making mockery of feminism and what feminists both male and female stand for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    I'm not saying all feminists do it but from the one's that I've seen all the non shavers claimed to be "feminist".
    Do you know what they might do in their spare time to support their movement, if they feel that strongly about it? It seems like you're possibly jumping to conclusions. Feminist chicks being hairy aren't all saying that quality makes them a feminist. It's just an outward nonverbal/symbolic expression of it, to some. Expression's only one dimension of how people go about challenging norms, etc. It's not meant to be looked at in such obtuse absolutes, I don't think. I'm only making guesses, here. I'd listen to the feminists here like Ivy, before making assumptions about what motivates a group of people as a whole.

    I'm no feminist, and most I've known were quite extreme in their beliefs, I couldn't take them seriously (honestly I don't give a shit about their cause, at least not in the USA)- but I give the benefit of the doubt, regarding their personal drives, expression, overall competence. It almost looks like your mind is already made up, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. wait. did they tell you they were feminist, or did you just assume so?
    They claimed to be "feminist".

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