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    Just as a side note, @Lark, I think some people's impression of Christianity is based on something closer to what the street preachers you have seen are doing than what a broader range of Christianity is about. People who have a lot of pent up anger about it are probably reacting to being surrounded by that sort of thing.
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    I haven't actually seen very many of them. There was this one guy, Gary Birdsong, who was frequently seen preaching around campus when I was in college, and he was very entertaining. My friends and I used to engage with him for sport. I was never very theatrical but I would argue with him some about doctrine and the bible. But my friend Doc who was far braver than I, would challenge him to a "Lord-off" and then out-preach him, going on and on about the Church of the Subgenius or something equally silly that we thought was clever back then. Good times.

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    the crazy urban variety that blesses people at bus stops and yells about the end of the world delights me to no ends by fulfilling certain expectations about cities that I had as a child... whatever color they are, they've GOT to look homeless too!

    however, the obnoxious, evangelical type who has opinions about what I do with my own body and makes signs about it and who regularly tell me that I am going to hell? they can fuck themselves in the asses with unlubed dildoes... fuckers
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    When I have seen or known street preachers, I guess I'm uncertain about how extreme they might be. I also feel some of the psychological tension that goes into being willing to be socially "off" for the purpose of a religious ideal. I think there can be a lot of teaching about how it is important to be persecuted for your faith, so if you aren't crossing social boundaries, there is a sense you have not done enough. There can also be a lot of examples of prophets throughout the bible that were considered socially strange and off-putting, and this is presented in a way to imply that a person sincere to following god's truth will be seen in this same light.

    Since this is a psychology related forum, I might as well venture to point out that this creates a huge "super-ego" type of weight on a person's shoulders. Their religious, separatist group is at odds with the larger culture and so the individual must experience tension either from the religious group or the larger society. It is easy for an individual to lose a sense of self by being torn between these different external expectations. I think there is a great deal more to explore regarding the psychology of the experience, but it does require certain types of conflicting layers.

    So, simply put, when I see a street preacher I feel uncertain about their social boundaries, and I feel a great deal of psychological tension and pressure, and something almost akin to panic. It is different from panic, in that it feel like a slow, heavy, sustained urgency that can provoke extremism.
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    There aren't too many here. I ironically pray they won't take note of my presence.


    I do enjoy engaging Jehovah witnesses. They ask thought provoking questions, though I don't think I answer them from the same vein they are used to.

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    I feel really really intense hatred before I remind myself that I can't really judge them. I've been disturbed by how antireligion I've become.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    Just as a side note, @Lark, I think some people's impression of Christianity is based on something closer to what the street preachers you have seen are doing than what a broader range of Christianity is about. People who have a lot of pent up anger about it are probably reacting to being surrounded by that sort of thing.
    Well Orwell did write that like the Christian religion the worst representatives of socialism were socialists, I think he was right on both counts, I actually think in some ways that the worst representatives of most things are the self-appointed representatives, they're usually channelling negative archetypes and the ideas are window dressing.

    I wish there was more thinking though, both about the ideas which are supposedly being fronted, the frontmen, also, though this is too much of an ask I figure, that the ideas being fronted by thought about by the front men themselves.

    This guy was bellowing up about sin, no one thinks about sin at all but when they do they are generally liable to be thinking about consequences of actions but no he's full on everyone is doomed as fuck per se, the only solution is justification by belief, belief alone, yadda, yadda.

    I understand most of the points about why "belief alone" can be plausible, most basically "what could you give to God that he hasnt got already?", earning favour is a very human anthropomorphic idea etc.

    Although like I say there's some great books about the terrible consequences of those ideas, James Hogg's principally, the exchange between Erasmus and Luther is more of interest to believers, probably, although if you dont believe in religion at all but read discussion threads or are interested in debates its worth a read and I'll bet for a modern thinker, with all the "time honoured truisms" they think they "know for sure", is liable to have some surprises.

    These sources cant have escaped the attention, or if they have I wonder why, seriously, that they would have done.

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    Amused.
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    I thought the band name was cool but can't remember the music.

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