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    Quote Originally Posted by Ene View Post
    "Treat others as you would like to be treated." In other words, I will not violate this powerful spiritual principle. I will treat others with the same basic human kindness and respect that I hope to receive in return.
    Except for the 'losers'.

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    I think that life possesses an intrinsic, infinite value. Success, skill, character, etc. are all added onto infinity in terms of value.
    Step into my metaphysical room of mirrors.

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    I determine my value by my affect on people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Except for the 'losers'.
    Mole,

    You say that; so I will ask, "Have seen me purposely being unkind to someone that you esteem a "loser" in my eyes?"

    If you will make me aware of the time I have been unkind or unfair to another person in your presence, let me know and I will go apologize to that person. I have not imagined anyone here to be a loser. I may not always agree with them but I don't think of them in those terms.

    But while we're on the subject, I do not see people in such a dichotomy as winners and losers as good and bad. I only see people, all trying to find out who they are and what they are. Some are so caught up in this world that they believe that they believe their worth is tied to the opinions of the people inhabiting it. I see many people who believed it when others placed that label on them and therefore acted accordingly. They are often, as a result, bitter, fault-finding and nit-picky. They will put up a big front but the truth is that they are lonely and want someone to just accept them for who they are. Some are, as a result, self-loathing and insecure. They do not see themselves as they really are meant to be.
    A student said to his master: "You teach me fighting, but you talk about peace. How do you reconcile the two?" The master replied: "It is better to be a warrior in a garden than to be a gardener in a war." - unknown/Chinese

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    My self worth is determined by my ability to succeed with my functions.

    Achieving goals of Se and Ti is easy. Achieving goals of Fe and Ni through Se and Ti is even more rewarding.

    I find that if I can make myself the most well rounded best person I can possibly be, my self worth increases. My self esteem rises.

    Just imagine an ESTP going to a book club, and not being awkward.

    Success.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Arendee View Post
    My self worth is determined by my ability to succeed with my functions.

    Achieving goals of Se and Ti is easy. Achieving goals of Fe and Ni through Se and Ti is even more rewarding.

    I find that if I can make myself the most well rounded best person I can possibly be, my self worth increases. My self esteem rises.

    Just imagine an ESTP going to a book club, and not being awkward.

    Success.

    Haha! Love it! [the video clip.]

    Also, I like what you say about being well-rounded. That, is a great goal.

    Oh, yeah, I know an ESTP who goes to book clubs, that is when he's not hiking up the side of a mountain in New Mexico or running a marathon or trying to accomplish some other "impossible" feat. haha. He's a great person and if he wants to put a book on his head, I say...let him do it, because you never know when it might rain and somebody needs to have enough sense to convert a book into a hat!
    A student said to his master: "You teach me fighting, but you talk about peace. How do you reconcile the two?" The master replied: "It is better to be a warrior in a garden than to be a gardener in a war." - unknown/Chinese

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ene View Post
    You say that; so I will ask, "Have seen me purposely being unkind to someone that you esteem a "loser" in my eyes?"
    You have called me a 'loser'. How soon you forget.

    Fortunately Australians love losers, just as Americans hate them.

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    Mole said, "You have called me a 'loser'. How soon you forget. Fortunately Australians love losers, just as Americans hate them."

    If I did, I am truly sorry. I have intended to be kind to you on this forum and I don't usually make a habit of calling people I'm attempting to befriend a loser. Still, I might have done it. I'm not perfect and anything's possible. I would like for you to provide me a link to the post in which I called you a loser, if you don't mind. Again, I am sorry.

    Having said that, I feel that there are some things that need to be spoken and clarified. First, this is not a knee-jerk reaction, nor is it an emotional response. I've actually sat here and carefully considered the things that I'm about to say to you and I am certain that they need to be said, if for no other reason than to let you know exactly where I stand. There is no anger or malice intended in the things I'm about to ask you. They are just questions that I want to know the answers to.

    First, I thank you for all of the times you have commented on my posts. Sometimes, I questioned your motives, but still, I appreciated the time you put into speaking with me. Now having said that, I feel I would be doing you an injustice if I didn't say the following things to you.

    Are you aware that you come across as being a nit-picky person who seems like he's/she's just trying to provoke people?

    Are you aware that many people would like to like you if you would let them?

    Do you realize that you seem cold and prickly and self-righteous?

    Do you intentionally prod people in an effort to provoke them into giving you some kind of worked-up response?

    If so, why?

    Are you aware that you come across as lonely and bitter?

    Do you intend to sound prejudice and judgmental?

    Also, am I mistaken to think that you profess scientific intellect? If not, then does it really seem logical to get on a forum with people from all over the world and criticize those whose culture is different from yours?

    On that same note, why would a person so against typology be involved in a forum dedicated to the subject?

    See, from where I'm standing, it looks like this. It doesn't seem logical to get on a forum dedicated to typology and consistently criticize it, unless you intend to set us all straight on the heresy of psychology, then you come across as self-righteous and narrow-minded. So, which is it? Are you being illogical? Or do you deem yourself our savior from scientific fallacies?

    Did you know that it appears that you freely point your fingers of criticism and prejudice at others to avoid facing the truth that there is something missing in your life?

    Okay, I think that's most of my questions. Again, I apologize if I called you a loser. And I hope you can provide me with a concrete example.
    A student said to his master: "You teach me fighting, but you talk about peace. How do you reconcile the two?" The master replied: "It is better to be a warrior in a garden than to be a gardener in a war." - unknown/Chinese

    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...=61024&page=14

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    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    I think that life possesses an intrinsic, infinite value. Success, skill, character, etc. are all added onto infinity in terms of value.
    This, more or less. ^
    03/23 06:06:58 EcK: lex
    03/23 06:06:59 EcK: lex
    03/23 06:21:34 Nancynobullets: LEXXX *sacrifices a first born*
    03/23 06:21:53 Nancynobullets: We summon yooouuu
    03/23 06:29:07 Lexicon: I was sleeping!



    04/25 04:20:35 Patches: Don't listen to lex. She wants to birth a litter of kittens. She doesnt get to decide whats creepy

    02/16 23:49:38 ygolo: Lex is afk
    02/16 23:49:45 Cimarron: she's doing drugs with Jack

    03/05 19:27:41 Time: You can't make chat morbid. Lex does it naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    I think that life possesses an intrinsic, infinite value. Success, skill, character, etc. are all added onto infinity in terms of value.
    This, ^^^ more or less.
    03/23 06:06:58 EcK: lex
    03/23 06:06:59 EcK: lex
    03/23 06:21:34 Nancynobullets: LEXXX *sacrifices a first born*
    03/23 06:21:53 Nancynobullets: We summon yooouuu
    03/23 06:29:07 Lexicon: I was sleeping!



    04/25 04:20:35 Patches: Don't listen to lex. She wants to birth a litter of kittens. She doesnt get to decide whats creepy

    02/16 23:49:38 ygolo: Lex is afk
    02/16 23:49:45 Cimarron: she's doing drugs with Jack

    03/05 19:27:41 Time: You can't make chat morbid. Lex does it naturally.

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