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    so, i have been wondering what correlation yin and yang has to psychology, and if ive understood correct, then as yin is feminity, then its naturally feeler functions, and yang thinking functions.

    But ive speculated that its also directly connected to my theory that so sp, sx so and sp sx are the "evil" or selfish instincts, thus yin is the darkness so it makes sense these instincts are in the dark while ive classified the rest three to be selfless instincts, so naturally yang.

    So i think yin and yang is chinese philosophical way to understand psychology.

    What do you think?
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    Yin is not evil and selfish and Yang is not good and sefless. Furthermore, the notion of black and white being analogs to evil and good was not present in East Asian religion and philosophy as it was in the west. Altogether a concept of good vs evil would be antithetical to Taoism.

    Yang's association with passion and Yin's function as its counterpart also poses some problems for the F and T association.

    You are probably exaggerating the relationship between the F/T dichotomy and the sexes, though it is correct that Yin is feminine and Yang is masculine (although you may not want to assume that means the same things as it does in 21st century USA).

    I find you notions about the selfishness of the instincts also quite dubious, and I think you misunderstand what Social means if you presume it correlates with pro-social, altruistic behavior.
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    I believe you are off on the wrong foot regarding the yin and yang.


    Also - welcome back, Vilku!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Yin is not evil and selfish and Yang is not good and sefless. Furthermore, the notion of black and white being analogs to evil and good was not present in East Asian religion and philosophy as it was in the west. Altogether a concept of good vs evil would be antithetical to Taoism.

    You are probably exaggerating the relationship between the F/T dichotomy and the sexes, though it is correct that Yin is feminine and Yang is masculine (although you may not want to assume that means the same things as it does in 21st century USA).

    I find you notions about the selfishness of the instincts also quite dubious, and I think you misunderstand what Social means if you presume it correlates with pro-social, altruistic behavior.
    my theory on instinct division is based on the synergetic and insynergetic flow direction thing, nothing to do with individual instincts.

    "Yang's association with passion and Yin's function as its counterpart also poses some problems for the F and T association."

    hm, BUT, in that case, that supports my idea as sx so being yang instinct, along with so sx and sx sp and the rest three are yin instincts, OR sx so, so sp and sp sx as the yang and rest yin.. I dont know which is right but i think it must be something like this. So yeah, f\t resemble the masculinity feminity split but that isnt what yin yang is indeed about.


    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    I believe you are off on the wrong foot regarding the yin and yang.


    Also - welcome back, Vilku!
    aww, thanks! =3

    yeah.. Im quite confused by yin and yang, perhaps it has nothing to do with psychology and its just all about accepting the darkness AND goodness withink you, cause too much selfishness is just plain AWFUL and too much selflessness results into what ive been through, meaning you forget your self, and become a wreck, thus the stereotypical nine who goes along others never having his own will.. =S
    healthiness is all about appreciating other peoples inferior function. its like the sore spot no one ever notices, but we desperately wish they did, and if you focus on doing that, youll have many friends. and also learn to appreciate your own inferior function, others wont find it stupid if you show them how cool it is.

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    This Chinese psychology has deep roots in their culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilku View Post
    my theory on instinct division is based on the synergetic and insynergetic flow direction thing, nothing to do with individual instincts.

    "Yang's association with passion and Yin's function as its counterpart also poses some problems for the F and T association."

    hm, BUT, in that case, that supports my idea as sx so being yang instinct, along with so sx and sx sp and the rest three are yin instincts, OR sx so, so sp and sp sx as the yang and rest yin.. I dont know which is right but i think it must be something like this. So yeah, f\t resemble the masculinity feminity split but that isnt what yin yang is indeed about.




    aww, thanks! =3

    yeah.. Im quite confused by yin and yang, perhaps it has nothing to do with psychology and its just all about accepting the darkness AND goodness withink you, cause too much selfishness is just plain AWFUL and too much selflessness results into what ive been through, meaning you forget your self, and become a wreck, thus the stereotypical nine who goes along others never having his own will.. =S
    Yang is the Vibration and Yin is the Receptive element ...If you think of things in these terms, there's really no need for gender and light and dark and good and bad to be described.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urarienev View Post
    Yang is the Vibration and Yin is the Receptive element ...If you think of things in these terms, there's really no need for gender and light and dark and good and bad to be described.
    ive been thinking about it again, so my theory is that yin is inwardness, looking inside yourself, while yang outwardness. And thus yang is like positivity, and inevitably yin is pain, darkness, cause thats what is inside. Do you think ive got it right?
    healthiness is all about appreciating other peoples inferior function. its like the sore spot no one ever notices, but we desperately wish they did, and if you focus on doing that, youll have many friends. and also learn to appreciate your own inferior function, others wont find it stupid if you show them how cool it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilku View Post
    ive been thinking about it again, so my theory is that yin is inwardness, looking inside yourself, while yang outwardness. And thus yang is like positivity, and inevitably yin is pain, darkness, cause thats what is inside. Do you think ive got it right?
    “Tao engenders One;
    One engenders Two;
    Two engenders Three;
    Three engenders all things.
    All things carry the yin (femininity)
    while embrace the yang (masculinity).
    Neutralising energy brings them into harmony.”

    "Yin and yang are two sides of dualism. It is the tail and the head of a coin. The tail is yin, then the head is yang. They exist alongside one another. The head cannot exist without the tail, and the tail cannot exist without the head.

    Everything in this world is a dualism. In it, you can always find yin and yang.

    The earth we live on is yin, and the sun that brings us warmth is yang. A woman is yin, and a man is yang. Sadness is yin, while joyfulness is yang. "

    In a sense yes, I think you've got it. I don't know if I would go to the extent of "pain or darkness", but it makes sense. I think of it in terms of an outlet (receptive) and to plug something in is action
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    whole jungian psychology is based on the idea of opposites
    "Where wisdom reigns, there is no conflict between thinking and feeling."
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    whole jungian psychology is based on the idea of opposites
    This quote is really interesting and inspiring.

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