@Victor I'm not trying to argue doctrine nor was I referring to the doctrine of predestination ...I was strictly referring to the belief that the souls of men were predestined to exist and that the creator is the one that wills them into existence. I hold firm that it is a general consensus among Christians that the creator is in control of all life. Maybe you misunderstood something I posted but in no way shape or form was I referring to the Calvinist doctrine of predestination.
What little I do know of the Calvinistic doctrine of predestination it's the belief that go has decided what was to become of each human before the earth was formed. In my post I didn't mean to interpret that to mean everything we do or say or ever will have is predestined such as the doctrine you speak of seems to suggest.I meant that the creator knows all we will do or say and what we will have. Knowing these things he has a plan of our lives or our soul. It is up to us to chose to live according to that plan or to chose another path but our very souls existence was predetermined by the will of the creator. There is a difference in saying all we will ever do say or become is predetermined there for our soul is predetermined and saying the creator has a plan for all we will ever do say or become therefore our very existence is predetermined. The later is the point I was trying to make. I don't know if this was any clearer. I'm finding this hard to articulate. Hopefully you were able to get the just of what I was saying through my muddied explanation.