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    Good lord unnamed, must you post a huge image to go with every single one of your posts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Good lord unnamed, must you post a huge image to go with every single one of your posts?
    It just for MANE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unnamed View Post
    It just for MANE.
    but i've just said...

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    1. in the history of discussion boards, the "that's just my opinion" defense has never actually worked.
    why are you expecting me to be the exception?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
    but i've just said...



    why are you expecting me to be the exception?
    I didn't expect you to be the exception.

    [IMG]no.[/IMG]
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    Whenever I see these sort of comments, I wonder why people take something so large - many different people with different viewpoints may describe themselves as "Feminist", and then just lump it into one category.

    Either you have a lot of trouble distinguishing between distinct subgroups, or you have a very brief, focused experience with what "feminism" is and don't realize there is something beyond that immediate perception.

    It's a good rule of thumb when introduced to any new "group" that you are probably only aware of just the tip of the iceberg and there is more to it that you realize.

    You can reasonably be sure there are unknown unknowns.

    Or there are other reasons that I'm not sure of.
    Don't know how much it'll bend til it breaks.

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    Basically, it's like saying all Christians are like Westboro Baptist, all Muslims are like Al Qaeda, all people that care about animal rights are like PETA, etc.
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    I don't really understand this thread... how can equal rights for women be a negative thing? Women are of equal worth to men (or I assume so as I have no reason to think differently) and should be treated as such. To suggest that Mary Wollstonecraft and "feminists" like her "suck" is, I think, rather stupid.

    Also, I think the question of whether women are as violent as men is an entirely different topic, and has no relevance to feminism whatever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by En Gallop View Post
    I don't really understand this thread... how can equal rights for women be a negative thing? Women are of equal worth to men (or I assume so as I have no reason to think differently) and should be treated as such. To suggest that Mary Wollstonecraft and "feminists" like her "suck" is, I think, rather stupid.

    Also, I think the question of whether women are as violent as men is an entirely different topic, and has no relevance to feminism whatever...
    Is feminism just synomynous with egalitarianism then? If it is why is egalitarianism not sufficient?

    I'm sympathetic to some sorts of feminism but over time I've been less sympathetic to all varieties, that said its a very, very diverse and disparity camp to try and generalise about like the OP, I gather, has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Is feminism just synomynous with egalitarianism then? If it is why is egalitarianism not sufficient?

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    Yes, in my book; and it is sufficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    Basically, it's like saying all Christians are like Westboro Baptist, all Muslims are like Al Qaeda, all people that care about animal rights are like PETA, etc.
    Furthermore, I think that extreme groups tend to attract each other, it's like they recognize and agree with on some level not always what but how each other thinks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Is feminism just synomynous with egalitarianism then? If it is why is egalitarianism not sufficient?

    I'm sympathetic to some sorts of feminism but over time I've been less sympathetic to all varieties, that said its a very, very diverse and disparity camp to try and generalise about like the OP, I gather, has.
    Well I'll jump on that.

    I'd support gender equality before any gendered movement myself but women face issues specific to them, so it seems appropriate. One goal of some who call themselves feminists (shortened to: "one goal of feminism") would be to address those specific issues. In theory I'd support groups focused on men's issues too, but in practice a lot of those groups seem to be reactions to feminism rather than addressing actual problems men have. That said, I don't think it's right to make problems men have illegitimate because they are the oppressors with iron fists commanding the world from atop their misogynist throne.

    (cue someone coming in starting a sentence with "nobody/everyone/huge sweeping generalization applied defensively to a whole group thinks...")

    So feminism serves a role representing the needs of one group, along with other groups where there is 'intersectionality'. Personally I see it within a framework of anti-meaningless-discrimination goals. (I support merit based discrimination.)
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