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  • God is Evil and cannot be overthrown.

    1 6.25%
  • God is Good and cannot be overthrown.

    7 43.75%
  • God is Evil and can be overthrown.

    6 37.50%
  • God is Good and can be overthrown.

    2 12.50%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    Why should I or anyone care if either of those are the case?
    I take it it's the second one then.

    You really should develop the ability to think rationally. It would stop you saying stupid things that make no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by En Gallop View Post
    I take it it's the second one then.

    You really should develop the ability to think rationally. It would stop you saying stupid things that make no sense.


    On what grounds do you tell me what I should and shouldn't do?
    I know it can't be on the grounds that what I'm doing is wrong.
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    I've tried thinking of something worth saying, but largely, God is irrelevant. I steamrolled his wickedness around eighteenth month of existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poimandres View Post
    I also think God should love everybody, but that doesn't mean he needs to give them the same rewards.
    What kind of rewards are we talking of?

    It helps us to see the difference, and the bad can also refine us, so you may have a point there.
    There wouldn't even be a difference without bad. Good would simply be "normality".

    Quote Originally Posted by En Gallop View Post
    Personally, I find the whole idea of morality - in the sense of "This is TRULY Right, or TRULY Wrong" - to be totally unfathomable. I just don't understand why most people can't SEE that.
    Exactly. Most people can't see it because they only think in terms of 0 or 1. To include decimals is to overly complicate matters.

    Morality is basically a list of behaviours a certain society/group has found agreeable/disagreeable over time. Nothing more. If more people would understand that, and not stick to the other interpretation, we might actually be able to make ethics make sense.
    I'd say that it is an innate instinct that is shaped around their society or group. Morality creates order in the group, which aids survival. Other animals also have a basic level of morality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post


    On what grounds do you tell me what I should and shouldn't do?
    I know it can't be on the grounds that what I'm doing is wrong.
    On the grounds that what you are doing is stupid. People shouldn't do stupid things and expect to get away with it.

    If we're looking at it from an ethical standard, then no, of course it isn't inherently wrong to do stupid things like trolling. BUT most people don't like being bugged by nonsense. I don't do it. So, you shouldn't bug me. That's an ethical argument. But surely the fact it's dumb and achieves nothing should be argument enough for you to stop, making ethics irrelevant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    Please enlighten me as to what you see as the distinction.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing vs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floor_cleaning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Bubble View Post
    What kind of rewards are we talking of?
    That's a good question. I don't know! Maybe the reward could be an immanent event, a good feeling, self-development, or even a better world to come.

    There wouldn't even be a difference without bad. Good would simply be "normality".
    True, the duality makes for more diversity.

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    You're so coy. The latter is still just a euphemism for what you actually desire.



    Quote Originally Posted by En Gallop View Post
    On the grounds that what you are doing is stupid. People shouldn't do stupid things and expect to get away with it.

    If we're looking at it from an ethical standard, then no, of course it isn't inherently wrong to do stupid things like trolling.
    Stop right here. The rest of your arguments are pointless. You're not trying to get me to conform to what is right, but rather to your own personal preference. So your arguments that follow are just an effort to coerce me into behaving the way you want. It is purely an exercise of self-promoting power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    what is that? it's like a cross between an eraser and an ice cream sandwhich
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post



    Stop right here. The rest of your arguments are pointless. You're not trying to get me to conform to what is right, but rather to your own personal preference. So your arguments that follow are just an effort to coerce me into behaving the way you want. It is purely an exercise of self-promoting power.
    Okay, do what you want. I've had enough of this site anyway.

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