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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    No one said ''YAY NUCLEAR WAR FTW :party2". It can be exciting in a certain light, and terrifying in many other lights.

    Turn off the Fi and try to think objectively. Also, develop some Ne.
    Why don't you develop some Se and live in the fucking real world. I am actually appalled by the immaturity of this, to be perfectly honest. It just seems immature and dumb to me.

    It also makes me wonder if men start wars and kill people out of boredom.

    LOL at thinking nuclear bombs could be an exciting or good thing as "thinking objectively." How about "thinking like a five year old boy who shits his pants when people around him drop dead because they fried to death and now has to live off of canned peas and dead rats because there are no grocery stores or plants in a 500 mile radius."

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    Also please note that Ne does not find "fucking for peace" exciting as Se apparently does.

    I rest my case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    Why don't you develop some Se and live in the fucking real world. I am actually appalled by the immaturity of this, to be perfectly honest. It just seems immature and dumb to me.
    Personally, I don't get appalled that easily. Also, I find your linear perspective to be extremely immature, so I guess we're even.

    It also makes me wonder if men start wars and kill people out of boredom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    "In a certain light" changes everything. Put that anywhere and I'll find an atom of reason to answer yes. E.g. I can imagine people reunited in bunkers, leaving their differences aside and contemplating the value of small things that we take for granted.
    I imagine it as a total nuclear war that will eradicate all of civilization. In this, I sit with a couple of friends on a mountaintop, drinking expensive alcohol, waiting for and then watching with an eerie delight the fireworks of the first dying of Urth. It is a bit idealized but, I reckon, still covered by 'in a certain light'.

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    it depends how you define "exciting". Some people apparently define it as "lots of adrenaline" or something. To me exciting clearly has "positive mood" connotations. I took away my answer because everyone kept flagging me for saying "no"...morons.

    Most of the questions that are all "could you consider/could you ever/do you always" are stupid because some people interpret them hyperliterally ("sure I would hypothetically consider the pros and cons of eating my own offspring, it'd be an interesting mental exercise") and others interpret them as more "what would you be most likely to do"
    -end of thread-

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    No, because the negative effects afterwards would outweigh the event itself. Objectively speaking, humans' (as well as all life that we currently
    know of) most fundamental instinct is to survive, and to have a nuclear war is to revolt against it, so the outcome would most likely abolish effective survival afterwards. It is illogical to that trait and unnecessary, although our nature makes the development of such things inevitable, and I'm sure the atomic bomb will have a future successor, in favour of a yet more destructive design.

    It can be considered exciting, yes (and of course you don't have to care about the above), but it is rather frivolous to do so. The above should be considered more important than a perspective that considers it exciting when such severe outcomes are unavoidable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    I can imagine people reunited in bunkers, leaving their differences aside and contemplating the value of small things that we take for granted.
    Perhaps a single reinvigorating moment in dark times, but I doubt said people would dare to call it 'exciting'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    So a 'nuclear' bomb is actually a light bomb.
    Only around 35% of a nuclear bombs energy is converted to thermal energy. Over 50% produces a tremendous shock wave, therefore it would be more appropriate to consider it an 'air bomb'.

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    I don't find the idea of lots of people dying in horrible ways to be exciting. And I don't relish the end of tech and medicine. Or getting cancer from radiation poisoning and dying in pain. And a host of other things attached to nuclear war. And the crime and violence that would came, since the rule of law would become "might makes right" again.

    At the same time, I'd find a cultural reboot exciting. There's so much crap in our constructed society that has nothing to do with actual living. I'd rather be living and interacting with the world, rather than living daily in what amounts to a socially constructed existence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I don't find the idea of lots of people dying in horrible ways to be exciting. And I don't relish the end of tech and medicine. Or getting cancer from radiation poisoning and dying in pain. And a host of other things attached to nuclear war. And the crime and violence that would came, since the rule of law would become "might makes right" again.

    At the same time, I'd find a cultural reboot exciting. There's so much crap in our constructed society that has nothing to do with actual living. I'd rather be living and interacting with the world, rather than living daily in what amounts to a socially constructed existence.
    This was the reason I chose "yes." But then everyone gets offended by that question so I gave up on it and unmarked it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    This was the reason I chose "yes." But then everyone gets offended by that question so I gave up on it and unmarked it.
    I guess maybe a puerile Revolution-style reboot of the world, where society is rebooted without all the pain and suffering and harm and grit and dirt would be more palatable for people.... You know, the PG-11 version...
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    It would, in the sense that I dream of romanticized versions of 12th century battle.


    I would love to study it, eight hundred years its junior. Instead I can play games like Fallout or Star Ocean.

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