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    It is more of the same. It is just that information is traveling faster than we have had in the past. Almost instantaneous information is both "good" and "bad" in itself. We get live updates and everything within minutes. If we were to compare each century from the 1800 century until today (or even 2000 years ago,) there are many horrors, both in history books and those that are overlooked, just as we do today.

    In both the civil war and the revolutionary war, it took weeks to months for the messenger to bring that same needed information to a city or outpost. In that same timeframe, they would still be at war killing one another compared to today (where we would get a temporary ceasefire message almost immediately.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Standuble View Post
    I have read Socrates had a similar complaint about his society.

    How exactly does one define "downhill" when referring to a society?
    Or, to rephrase that, what is a society going downhill?

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    More information overload and existential anxiety, but also much more opportunity and arguably fewer Black Plagues. I say stuff is generally on an upward trajectory overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bologna View Post
    More information overload and existential anxiety, but also much more opportunity and arguably fewer Black Plagues. I say stuff is generally on an upward trajectory overall.
    Doom and gloom are in short supply here as we are not only in the middle of a mining boom but we are talking about the next boom in food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Is this an argument against liberal democracy?
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standuble View Post
    I have read Socrates had a similar complaint about his society.

    How exactly does one define "downhill" when referring to a society?
    Landslide

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