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    Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful. - Nietzsche

    Ethics are very subjective. Deciding what's right and wrong to deal justice seems a bit extreme.

    I think it's better to be open-minded to alternatives rather than following stupid rules of punishment and restriction.

    Ultimately I just think people should do their own thing and not be needlessly condemned for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful. - Nietzsche

    Ethics are very subjective. Deciding what's right and wrong to deal justice seems a bit extreme.

    I think it's better to be open-minded to alternatives rather than following stupid rules of punishment and restriction.

    Ultimately I just think people should do their own thing and not be needlessly condemned for it.
    So, then, would you say that the only ones who should be punished are the ones who stop others from doing their own thing? I do not mean punished for the sake of being punished (which is mere revenge), but for the sake of preventing further disturbances.
    Great men are like eagles, and build their nest on some lofty solitude.

    Schopenhauer

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    Yes.

    In my moral view though, 'why' is more important than 'what'. So to me, prosecution out of anger is the same as assault out of anger.

    I think it is a crime to beat somebody up just because you're angry at them, and I think it is still a crime for a jury to lock someone away because they are angry at them. I don't think it can be any more justified if it arises from the same place.
    I do think there's a difference between criminal acts carried out out of anger, or rage rather, and decisions made by a jury, angry or not, one is lawful and the other is not. There's not moral equivalence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I do think there's a difference between criminal acts carried out out of anger, or rage rather, and decisions made by a jury, angry or not, one is lawful and the other is not. There's not moral equivalence.
    Laws and morals are not the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    Laws and morals are not the same.
    Pretty important that there's congruence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Pretty important that there's congruence.
    It's important, but important things don't always happen. Laws can be immoral. What is moral doesn't necessarily need to be a law.

    Furthermore, even though something may be immoral, it is some times necessary to do it anyway as it may be practically justified.

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