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    Default Why are emotions so bad? Hmm?

    Well? You know that Spock never would have made it in reality, right? Think about it.

    A reaction can either be emotional or mechanical. The thing there is that anti-emotional perspectives are also emotional.

    Machines and reflexes do not care nor do they discriminate.

    Without emotion you cannot aspire to something, and you also cannot be disappointed in anything either.
    Without emotion you will not be the progressive scientist who benefits mankind with your logical endeavors. That takes emotions to even want to do that.
    Without emotion, you are a lump. A rock, or some kind of plant at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    Well? You know that Spock never would have made it in reality, right? Think about it.

    A reaction can either be emotional or mechanical. The thing there is that anti-emotional perspectives are also emotional.

    Machines and reflexes do not care nor do they discriminate.

    Without emotion you cannot aspire to something, and you also cannot be disappointed in anything either.
    Without emotion you will not be the progressive scientist who benefits mankind with your logical endeavors. That takes emotions to even want to do that.
    Without emotion, you are a lump. A rock, or some kind of plant at best.

    So I had the thought that emotions are pure soulful expressions from the unconscious.

    And that feelings are ego expressions.

    Emotions lie deeper and become twisted by our ego. And depending upon how convoluted our egos are, emotions can become twisted as well.

    Things in life are usually more pure when they are simple and straightforward. It has been taught by spiritual gurus that annihilating the personal ego and assuming God's will is ideal. So too would feelings fall away, if we could do away with our ego, leaving us with raw emotion.

    Is raw emotion therefore like something an animal manifests? Angrily guarding a piece of meat? Lustily mating? Lazily lounging? Possessively marking?

    Do we need our ego to keep us human?


    Does any of this make sense, and is any of it worth discussing?
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    Emotions are bad because they're messy.

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    They fucking suck when your soul gets wrapped into something your mind does not agree with.
    "..And the eight and final rule: If this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight."
    'Men are meant to be with women. The rest is perversion and mental illness.'

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    I'd bet more money on my soul than my mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    I'd bet more money on my soul than my mind
    Hrmm..Okay.
    "..And the eight and final rule: If this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight."
    'Men are meant to be with women. The rest is perversion and mental illness.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiltyred View Post
    Emotions are bad because they're messy.
    Everything is messy. But without them you cannot realize how messy they are, and a lack of messy cannot be good. You'd never appreciate the lack of mess without enduring the mess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Craic View Post
    They fucking suck when your soul gets wrapped into something your mind does not agree with.
    It wouldn't not suck if that didn't happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    So I had the thought that emotions are pure soulful expressions from the unconscious.

    And that feelings are ego expressions.

    Emotions lie deeper and become twisted by our ego. And depending upon how convoluted our egos are, emotions can become twisted as well.

    Things in life are usually more pure when they are simple and straightforward. It has been taught by spiritual gurus that annihilating the personal ego and assuming God's will is ideal. So too would feelings fall away, if we could do away with our ego, leaving us with raw emotion.

    Is raw emotion therefore like something an animal manifests? Angrily guarding a piece of meat? Lustily mating? Lazily lounging? Possessively marking?

    Do we need our ego to keep us human?


    Does any of this make sense, and is any of it worth discussing?
    Our ego justifies what we're going to do anyway and tries to get it to mesh with our perception of reality.

    Having an aversion to something for example is just as much a feeling as anything else. If a certain brand of morality for example leads to hateful behavior, then what good is it?

    Those are good questions though, and are probably worth discussing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    It wouldn't not suck if that didn't happen.
    If frogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their asses when they hop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiltyred View Post
    If frogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their asses when they hop.
    If nothing had wings, a frog would still bump its ass when it hops but we'd not realize the significance of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    Our ego justifies what we're going to do anyway and tries to get it to mesh with our perception of reality.

    Having an aversion to something for example is just as much a feeling as anything else. If a certain brand of morality for example leads to hateful behavior, then what good is it?

    Those are good questions though, and are probably worth discussing.

    Not sure it's the ego doing the justifying....or maybe it is because of its role between the id and superego. The ego acts as a scale between the two, and attempts to keep them balanced. And I think you said it well saying it attempts to mesh with our perception of reality. But I'd also add to that our thoughts and feelings about reality too.

    The only good is God. So the only good action is one which promotes God's will. God's will is essentially love. So within this, nothing could be morally right that promotes wrong, or non-good actions.




    If we allow them to, emotions could give us a clue to our unconscious; indeed they could be the best and only indicators sometimes to our unconscious mind (along with dreams and psychosomatic manifestations, if we have them).

    It is when we twist up those emotions, and they become feelings (and thoughts, which are really analogous to feelings, but are expressions of the mind versus the heart) is when we can go awry. If we can just experience emotions, we can probably use them as a sound guide for God's will for us.

    The trick is not allowing them to be manipulated by our ego and world into something else.



    I think I am on to something here...
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