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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    My mum told me that she hated guns back at a time when my dad bought a sufficiently powerful enough air rifle that it needed a licence and a cabinet being installed which the police can inspect.

    She told me she hated them because there was a family member who had accidentially shot himself dead while carrying a shot gun and crossing from one field to another through a hedgerow which triggered the weapon.
    I just thought of another example. There is a guy I sat next to at a work related dinner a couple of years ago. I'd never met him before but talked to him for a while. Nice guy. He was accidentally killed in a hunting accident several months later. The bullet also hit his son. His children are now without a father. Guns shoot bullets and bullets are generally meant for hurting or killing. I just don't understand why an average person needs something like that. Risks far outweigh the rewards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    nothing I don't use in the kitchen... though if someone presses me I have some pretty vicious knives in the kitchen!

    and now for a quote from molly ivins that pretty much sums up my thoughts on things

    I am not anti-gun. I'm pro-knife. Consider the merits of the knife. In the first place, you have to catch up with someone in order to stab him. A general substitution of knives for guns would promote physical fitness. We'd turn into a whole nation of great runners. Plus, knives don't ricochet. And people are seldom killed while cleaning their knives.



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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    I just thought of another example. There is a guy I sat next to at a work related dinner a couple of years ago. I'd never met him before but talked to him for a while. Nice guy. He was accidentally killed in a hunting accident several months later. The bullet also hit his son. His children are now without a father. Guns shoot bullets and bullets are generally meant for hurting or killing. I just don't understand why an average person needs something like that. Risks far outweigh the rewards.
    Not in trained hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Not in trained hands.
    It was still dark outside and one of the hunters saw something moving so the idiot shot it. Unfortunately, it was this guy and his son. It's against the law to discharge your weapon at that time in the morning. The idiot was sentenced to some kind of community service. For killing a person. There is now a civil suit in progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    It was still dark outside and one of the hunters saw something moving so the idiot shot it
    Sounds like a problem between the ears to me.

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    but would have been harder to kill someone and injure someone else from that distance with a knife... or an arrow, to complete the point here
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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    I just thought of another example. There is a guy I sat next to at a work related dinner a couple of years ago. I'd never met him before but talked to him for a while. Nice guy. He was accidentally killed in a hunting accident several months later. The bullet also hit his son. His children are now without a father. Guns shoot bullets and bullets are generally meant for hurting or killing. I just don't understand why an average person needs something like that. Risks far outweigh the rewards.
    There's definitely risks involved, familiarity I think has a terrible effect on risk assessment too sometimes and judgement calls.

    I have that ambivalence about weapons that I mentioned already but its ramped up when it comes to firearms, they're expensive, risky and carry a lot of burden of conscience issues I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    but would have been harder to kill someone and injure someone else from that distance with a knife... or an arrow, to complete the point here
    I'd love to have Green Arrow skills, way more impressive than The Huntress for my money.

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    Another risk thing for me is having guns accessible makes it more likely someone will successfully suicide. My husband and I both have a history of depression and we have a house full of teenagers. My mom was very fortunate to have survived shooting herself in the chest as a young woman. I know that if a kid really wants to get a gun s/he will, but I'd prefer not to make it easy for someone in a dark mood to leave us so easily.

    That doesn't even count accidental shootings. It seems like it would be hard to have a gun secure from kids, but easy to get to in case of a home invasion, etc.

    Plus, if people know you have them, you aren't necessarily going to be less of a target for burglary. Guns are just like jewelry and small electronics and tools for thieves: portable and high value. They probably won't try if they think you're home, but most of the time they don't anyway.
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    Several knives, no guns. I used to carry a knife pretty much everywhere. I no longer need those sorts of deadly weapons. I just use my INFP "Death Look®", and most people run away. And if that doesn't work, I bring out the big guns, the "Sad Puppy"®. If that doesn't make them run screaming for the hills, they aren't really human.






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