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    Quote Originally Posted by Saudade View Post
    Yes, beliefs aren't set in stone, this does make a lot to think.
    I don't think our sexuality is a matter of belief. If it were, we could change our sexuality just as we can change our beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    I don't think our sexuality is a matter of belief. If it were, we could change our sexuality just as we can change our beliefs.
    I believe everyone is bisexual to varying degrees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saudade View Post
    I believe everyone is bisexual to varying degrees.
    This sounds to me like special pleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    This sounds to me like special pleading.
    Care to expand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    I don't think our sexuality is a matter of belief. If it were, we could change our sexuality just as we can change our beliefs.
    Can we change our beliefs? What we truly BELIEVE?
    Your kisses, sweeter than honey. But guess what, so is my money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saudade View Post
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    In our struggle for equal rights for homosexuals it became fashionable to say we are all bisexual as a way of making homosexuality mainstream.

    Last Saturday we succeeded in Canberra, Australia, with fourteen same sex marriages. The women favoured beautiful white wedding dresses and the men favoured black tie and tuxedo. And there was general rejoicing.

    And now, at least here, there is no need to pretend we are all bisexual for political purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    Can we change our beliefs? What we truly BELIEVE?
    It's certainly not easy to change our beliefs. And even in science too often we have to wait for a change of generations before we change our beliefs.

    However science is about changing our beliefs. And even in religion more and more are changing their beliefs.

    And in the global village, as we meet new and different cultures, we change our beliefs.

    And as we grow up we change our beliefs.

    And as we have children we change our beliefs.

    But it's not easy to change our beliefs particularly if we have no social support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    It's certainly not easy to change our beliefs. And even in science too often we have to wait for a change of generations before we change our beliefs.

    However science is about changing our beliefs. And even in religion more and more are changing their beliefs.

    And in the global village, as we meet new and different cultures, we change our beliefs.

    And as we grow up we change our beliefs.

    And as we have children we change our beliefs.

    But it's not easy to change our beliefs particularly if we have no social support.
    I could say that beliefs change or evolve certainly, with new information and perspective, but I don't know how anyone would do it on purpose (or why)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    It's certainly not easy to change our beliefs. And even in science too often we have to wait for a change of generations before we change our beliefs.

    However science is about changing our beliefs. And even in religion more and more are changing their beliefs.

    And in the global village, as we meet new and different cultures, we change our beliefs.

    And as we grow up we change our beliefs.

    And as we have children we change our beliefs.

    But it's not easy to change our beliefs particularly if we have no social support.
    I do not agree, if we have a social support *specially the strong one*, I believe, we will not change our beliefs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    In our struggle for equal rights for homosexuals it became fashionable to say we are all bisexual as a way of making homosexuality mainstream.

    Last Saturday we succeeded in Canberra, Australia, with fourteen same sex marriages. The women favoured beautiful white wedding dresses and the men favoured black tie and tuxedo. And there was general rejoicing.

    And now, at least here, there is no need to pretend we are all bisexual for political purposes.
    Sure, whatever you say.

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