Irredentist Catholicism and Islam

[Nicodemus]

I know what the objective of your posting is.

Do you know what the objective of the various cover-ups of the Catholic Church is?

 

[Lark]

Do you know what the objective of the various cover-ups of the Catholic Church is?

Yeah, I was waiting on something like this, out of respect for the mods and other users I'm not going to play the Nicodemus game.

 

[Nicodemus]

Yeah, I was waiting on something like this, out of respect for the mods and other users I'm not going to play the Nicodemus game.

'Something like this' is me trying to bring you back on topic.

 

[Mole]

Last night on a religious program on the radio, the Vice-Chancellor of the Catholic University was asked about child sexual abuse, and he responded by blaming the family.

Yes, the Vice-Chancellor exculpated the Catholic Church by saying that most child sexual abuse occurs within the family.

 

[Lark]

Last night on a religious program on the radio, the Vice-Chancellor of the Catholic University was asked about child sexual abuse, and he responded by blaming the family.

Yes, the Vice-Chancellor exculpated the Catholic Church by saying that most child sexual abuse occurs within the family.

OK as a social worker of a secular state authority I'm going to tell you that most child sexual abuse DOES occur within the family.

 

[Nicodemus]

 

[Mole]

Well, 95% of Australian voters approve of the Royal Commission and 3% don't.

 

[Mole]

Ireland, Australia and the Rest

Of the 204 countries in the world only one has completed a judicial inquiry into institutional child abuse, and that country is Ireland.

The second country to commence a judicial inquiry into institutional child abuse is Australia.

It took Ireland 9 years to complete their inquiry into institutional child abuse and the Irish Report is now available.

That leaves 202 countries who are yet to complete or even begin a judicial inquiry into institutional child abuse.

Is your country one of them?

 

[Mole]

With 202 countries turning a blind eye to child abuse, the first thing to do is to make the teaching of the History of Childhood compulsory in schools.

The second thing to do is to agitate for a national judicial inquiry with coercive powers into institutional child abuse.

Are we up to it?

 

[Mole]

It's ironic that on a site devoted to personality, the wellsprings of personality are so assiduously avoided.

And the wellsprings are avoided because they are too close to the bone. And more importantly they are avoided because they are repressed.

And our repressed wellsprings are like an open wound - we dare not touch it for the pain.

And so 202 countries continue abusing children, oblivious to the resulting personalities.

 

[skylights]

With 202 countries turning a blind eye to child abuse, the first thing to do is to make the teaching of the History of Childhood compulsory in schools.

The second thing to do is to agitate for a national judicial inquiry with coercive powers into institutional child abuse.

Are we up to it?

I don't disagree with your second point.

I'm curious as to the nature of your first point. How would teaching a history of childhood would encourage people to treat children better?

I think creating legally-mandated free classes for new parents on nutrition, positive discipline, and early education would help. As well as mandated high school classes on financial planning and birth control.

 

[Red Herring]

There is a phantastic short essay by Umberto Eco, "Why people go to demonstrations against child abuse". I wish I could find it online.

 

[Mole]

I'm curious as to the nature of your first point. How would teaching a history of childhood would encourage people to treat children better?

Teaching the History of Childhood wouldn't encourage people to treat children better, rather it would lift the veil hiding childhood.

Also the History of Childhood would delineate the various forms of child rearing and the effects on the child.

Also we could see how child rearing has changed over time.

We could see the relationship of child rearing to increasing prosperity.

And we could see the relationship of child rearing to tribal, literate and electronic societies.

Our immediate problem is that each one of us has been subject to a form of childrearing, and unless we have explored the emotional effects in therapy, it remains unknown us and we romanticise our child rearing so we will feel better.

But the price of feeling better is that we must drug ourselves with alcohol and nicotine and other drugs to get through the day. But worse, we unconsciously pass onto our children the child rearing we take for granted.

So our first step is to step outside the taken for granted.

 

[skylights]

Teaching the History of Childhood wouldn't encourage people to treat children better, rather it would lift the veil hiding childhood.

Also the History of Childhood would delineate the various forms of child rearing and the effects on the child.

Also we could see how child rearing has changed over time.

We could see the relationship of child rearing to increasing prosperity.

And we could see the relationship of child rearing to tribal, literate and electronic societies.

Our immediate problem is that each one of us has been subject to a form of childrearing, and unless we have explored the emotional effects in therapy, it remains unknown us and we romanticise our child rearing so we will feel better.

But the price of feeling better is that we must drug ourselves with alcohol and nicotine and other drugs to get through the day. But worse, we unconsciously pass onto our children the child rearing we take for granted.

So our first step is to step outside the taken for granted.

Ah, interesting. Kind of a psychology course, actually, in addition to history. Lessons on how to step outside one's narrative.

 

[Mole]

Ah, interesting. Kind of a psychology course, actually, in addition to history. Lessons on how to step outside one's narrative.

Yes, the Ancient Greeks taught us that ecstasy is stepping outside the taken for granted.

 

[Mole]

Well, 95% of Australian voters approve of the Royal Commission and 3% don't.

With 95% of Australian voters approving of the Royal Commission into institutional child abuse, the Minister for Defence, Stephen Smith MP, has initiated a Judicial Inquiry into rape in the military.

 

[Mole]

La Lutte Continue

An abuse survivors group has taken the Church to the International Criminal Court complaining of crimes against humanity.

And the Church has struck back by appointing a woman to speak for them. She is intelligent, powerful and understands the importance of public relations.

And as Cardinal Pell was described publicly yesterday as a sociopath, replacing him with an empathic woman Religious is a good move.

Meanwhile, la lutte continue.

 

[Mole]

Professor Ross Fitzgerald is a senior Australian academic who showed his integrity by opposing corruption in the Queensland government.

Yesterday he pointed out that the nine year Inquiry by the Irish Government into child abuse in the Catholic Church of Ireland had broken the hold the Church had over Ireland and her institutions.

And Professor Fitzgerald hoped the Australian Royal Commission into institutional child abuse particularly in the Catholic Church in Australia would reduce the status of the Church to that of astrology.

 

[Nicodemus]

Let us pray that he is right.

 

[Mole]

Let us pray that he is right.

Yes, at the moment we are arguing over the Terms of Reference of the Royal Commission. And it is becoming plain the Church doesn't want her victims to personally testify before the Commission. But the victims groups feel the opposite and want the victims to be able to tell their stories.