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    I guess I kinda go with the standard Evangelical Christian idea: a powerful fallen angel that can, perhaps, take on physical forms or at least appear to do so.

    I don't really think about him too much. People seem to be plenty capable of causing evil all on their own.
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    I think the idea that God punishes eradicates any need for a Devil.

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    I think the idea is that he is power/lust/unruliness/abnormal (witches etc) and the opposite is like giving, kindness etc. If you go to one or the other then youll get those energies back.

    So people who get UFO visits have probably done some in their time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jontherobot View Post
    I think he originated as a near-omnipotent/present manifestation of evil, then evolved into a more Earthly figure, and has since been eradicated by modern thought.
    ^ This.

    Although I feel like both God and Satan, at least in Abrahamic thought, began as more "earthly". Example: the book of Job. Not much omnipotence there, from either of them.

    The bolded, especially, though. Same as how people don't believe in hell as much anymore.
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    He's not a person, no.

    Although, it'd be interesting, personally, if he were...you know, the whole "god, jesus, the holy spirit" thing, except in terms of evil...so you'd have "satan the supernatural concept, satan the person, satan the spirit"...

    Sounds like a movie...steven spielberg, go ahead and write it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    ^ This.

    Although I feel like both God and Satan, at least in Abrahamic thought, began as more "earthly". Example: the book of Job. Not much omnipotence there, from either of them.

    The bolded, especially, though. Same as how people don't believe in hell as much anymore.
    Yeah, Judaism used to be different and didn't become Christianity until later. Jews picked up the modern interpretation from the religion called Zoroastrianism, while they were in captivity in Babylon after around 580 BC.

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    We discover Satan in the 17th century in, "Paradise Lost", by John Milton.

    Satan is a beautifully rendered tragic hero.

    Rather than blaming an unhappy childhood, Satan takes the bit in his teeth and says, "I would rather rule in Hell than serve in Heaven".

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    Quote Originally Posted by momental View Post
    I think the idea that God punishes eradicates any need for a Devil.
    Amen.

    Quote Originally Posted by minutegovt View Post
    I think the idea is that he is power/lust/unruliness/abnormal (witches etc) and the opposite is like giving, kindness etc. If you go to one or the other then youll get those energies back.
    So what about a kind witch?

    I see Satan as a fictional character in the morality play that is the Bible. I see the Biblical OT God the same way. I seem to remember reading that the original idea of Satan was to serve almost as a legalistic opponent to God in weighing men's souls, in the literal sense of a "devil's advocate". This is one of the more reasonable views of Satan I have run across.
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    I guess it depends...and I guess if the witch is moralless then she wouldn't know which way she'd be going either. I agree on the fictional thing, I think you have to kinda experience god, as they say.

    ...which you know..

    ..is...

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