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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Hmmm? I think I shall agree with Meshou on this one. Even those who doubt the "literalness" of some of the books like Genesis usually don't think Jesus was just allegory.

    Jesus existed as a man, and there is a God, but he is so great that we can not understand him with our finite minds. At best Jesus was not God himself, but a symbol of God. So we have to understand his task as a Messiah symbollically. Believe in Jesus, you will be saved because you've just stepped onto the path to salvation by embracing the symbol of God. Its basically like stepping into the door that you don't know what leads to, you just know its something great beyond your comprehension.


    Thats how I interpret it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hereandnow View Post
    Satanic worship, as with any worship, is illogical. The OP seems to think that people should run and hide because he's chosen one of the more benign and ineffective forms of superstitious nonsense. The choice of pinhead and the cautionary warning may well have worked in another time but now just point to an obvious need for a hug from somone. If not given, he's likely to infer that he will boil the head of a dog from the next trailer over.
    You are obviously an idiot, you come in here on this post after I have already clearly stated that i was just sateing my curiosity by starting it. YOU are the one who wants to attack me, YOU are the only one here who seems to think every thing ive posted is a direct attack at your ego. Please sit down and shut the hell up asshole. Im not here to play your games or attack anyones veiws, everything I said was not an attack just mearly the truth as I see it. The "Caution" was obviously for ignorant, self-loathing, thick-headed, closed-minded ingrates such as your self who must flaunt his ego and power through "texting". How lame do you have to be to come here on your free time and try to cyber-bully, you sir are a douche-bag!
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    Quote Originally Posted by meshou View Post
    I'd say the agknowledgement that Satan is a personal archetype and not a historical figure is a pretty fundamental difference. Most LeVey Satanists would laugh at insistance on a real Satan or a real Christ as ignorant fairy tale stuff.

    Edit: Further, I'd imagine many Satanists reject the Messiah archetype as harmful. They'd view it as the embodyment of the human need to be rescued from the concequences of their actions, and further, as the need to be rescued from their own impulses. Lack of personal mastery of your own impulses, to the point one needs rescue from them, is pretty much the CoS version of "evil."

    Don't shoot the messenger here. Playing Devil's advocate. Heh.
    Thank you so much, I couldnt have said it better myself. Oh and yes everything you said in there Is true and my own oponions are in accordence with them.
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    Okay, chill people. :footballreferee:

    Get back to the topic, or bad stuff is going to happen.

    I mean really bad stuff. Like knuckle vices and such.

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    Thank you Haight, and I apologise to everyone except the [Edited by Haight].
    This is not a war of beliefs just mearly idle chatter so lets all keep calm about it and so will I. (oh and I do know when I say "all" I mostly mean only a couple of people other than myself.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by hereandnow View Post
    Booyalab: Being pretentious is a skill you use well if for no other reason than to appear intellectual. Considering your own posts and logic, the two are so far apart as to be practically non-existent.
    is this vague critique of my intellect supposed to get me back for apparently hurting your feelings or are you just that insecure in your ability to specifically address my points?

    Define for me, in your own words, how worship of a non entity is logical. Take your time. You'll need it.
    edit: by the way, i noticed how you slyly changed the phrasing of your rhetoric to your benefit from the first post to this one..and you call me pretentious. In my example at the bottom, i'm addressing the first phrasing.



    Most Satanists either worship themselves or Satan as an archetype, neither of which are 'non entities'.
    I'm defining worship as expressing devotion to someone/something through one's lifestyle, that's the most common form, in religion or life in general.


    LOGIC:
    There are some things worthy of worship/devotion/honor/admiration (all synonyms!)
    xyz is worthy of worship/devotion/honor/admiration
    I worship xyz
    I don't wanna!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexis View Post
    You are obviously an idiot, you come in here on this post after I have already clearly stated that i was just sateing my curiosity by starting it. YOU are the one who wants to attack me, YOU are the only one here who seems to think every thing ive posted is a direct attack at your ego. Please sit down and shut the hell up asshole. Im not here to play your games or attack anyones veiws, everything I said was not an attack just mearly the truth as I see it. The "Caution" was obviously for ignorant, self-loathing, thick-headed, closed-minded ingrates such as your self who must flaunt his ego and power through "texting". How lame do you have to be to come here on your free time and try to cyber-bully, you sir are a douche-bag!
    Interesting. When someone criticized you, you flamed them, claiming that they were the attacker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhinosaur View Post
    Interesting. When someone criticized you, you flamed them, claiming that they were the attacker.
    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
    Okay, chill people. :footballreferee:

    Get back to the topic, or bad stuff is going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
    Okay okay

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    I'd like to get back to the discussion. If possible. Now this I find interesting:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hexis View Post
    .... There seems to be a large number of those in the "Wow look at me!" religions such as wiccan, paganism and satanism. Too many kids wanting to be "cool"....
    And actually just for future reference, I know this is going to make me sound "lame" or "childish" but I do hate/despise/do not respect Judeo Christianity as a whole. Not individuals of the following or practice (some yes lol) but the religion, its findings and just its teachings in them self.
    I'd say that there are a large number of neo-pagans who are of the let's all hold hands and skip thru the greensward to find the fairies types. There are also feminist and ecological types. There are the mysteries of magic types. There are those who are dissatisfied with their religious up bringing. There are those who want transformation and change. Other than the young and immature, may I ask what's your general opinion of neo-paganism and neo-pagans?

    And why do you dislike Judeo-Christianity, other than turn the other cheek and dislike/disbelief in a Messiah?
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