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    Do you think religion is dying and what day do you feel about it whether you think it is or isnt happening? What has lead you to reach this conclusion? Do you believe that were you live and your cultural backdrop are important in reaching this conclusion? Whether you believe it is dying or not do you think it is universally so or to do with demography and geography?

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    What is religion here?

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    All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. All these aspirations are directed toward ennobling man's life, lifting it from the sphere of mere physical existence and leading the individual towards freedom. (Albert Einstein)

    All of the spiritual traditions of the world are interconnected and are each different pieces of the greater puzzle that is the history of mankind and his future destiny at the higher levels of existence when the Gods from all the Bibles of the world return, either that or it is all just a lousy superstition.

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    It will continue to be diluted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    It will continue to be diluted.
    That's not a bad way to say it.

    I don't find that the USA (for example) is "less religious," people still believe a lot of various things here and I think spirituality is even more in vogue in some circles than it was twenty years ago (the younger generations have a, "it's your belief, believe what you want, just don't try to change me either" attitude); I just think it's about less formalized, homogenized religion. One particular faith system had a good grip on our country for decades, and now it's just one of many even if it still permeates everything.

    This is what is scaring the fundamentalists even more than the atheists -- at least if you keep things very clearly defined and separated, their own faith beliefs can remain undiluted, but with a lot of the influx of other-cultural faiths, there's been a lot of spillover from one faith into another, and this threatens their pure strain of religious belief and values, thus "corrupting" it. They want to keep their strain pure.

    I think particular religions endure as long as they prove useful. People believe things that help them survive and feel better about their lives. Religions that are purely esoteric or worse complicate one's life unnecessarily without providing some kind of positive loop are not going to survive long. In an odd way, it's survival of the fittest and selective breeding that determines whether a religion persists.
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    Religion has been on its deathbed ever since 1648 when the West adopted the idea of religion as being merely a facet of a society's culture, instead of being the central identity of that culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Religion has been on its deathbed ever since 1648 when the West adopted the idea of religion as being merely a facet of a society's culture, instead of being the central identity of that culture.
    Does that really make it a "deathbed" ... or is it merely like putting something into a new context where it can still thrive within those limitations? (I mean, for some of the zealous, I suppose that is like "death"... but it isn't, technically speaking.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Is religion dying?
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Does that really make it a "deathbed" ... or is it merely like putting something into a new context where it can still thrive within those limitations? (I mean, for some of the zealous, I suppose that is like "death"... but it isn't, technically speaking.)
    I think so, because at that point, religion became solely about epistemology, eschatology, and morality. No longer was it necessary for it to be about collective identity, even though that tradition carried onward on a smaller scale.

    At this point, religion could be attacked on these fronts - epistemology first by rationalism then by empiricism, eschatology by rationalistic predictions of the future, along with medical developments, and finally, morality by the development of socioeconomic ideology. At this point, the cultural solidarity afforded by common religious practice becomes increasingly divorced from the subjective individual experience of the divine, and the more irrational teachings become less understood as metaphorical and more easily dismissed as absurd. Religion begins to wither as the benefits of collective spirituality become less understood.

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