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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    Send them to that island prison in Norway.
    Agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    Justice as we typically do it is passé and just really doesn't work.
    ^this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    Justice as we typically do it is passé and just really doesn't work.
    ^this.
    To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, be nothing.
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    Music provides one of the clearest examples of a much deeper relation between mathematics and human experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pseudo View Post
    No I don't think so.

    B: what are you talking Bout no one has been following us I have been with you ever single second of every day of your life and I know what you are saying is false.
    A: shut up and come this way.
    B: not until you explain the knife ... Is this about x event? I'm not walking until you put that knife down.

    Probably even something like

    B: I can feel that our pulse is elevated. What is going on??
    What if one head is significantly dumber/smarter than the other?
    For all that we have done, as a civilization, as individuals, the universe is not stable, and nor is any single thing within it. Stars consume themselves, the universe itself rushes apart, and we ourselves are composed of matter in constant flux. Colonies of cells in temporary alliance, replicating and decaying and housed within, an incandescent cloud of electrical impulses. This is reality, this is self knowledge, and the perception of it will, of course, make you dizzy.

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    Murderous conjoined twins are plaguing our society and we can't figure out how to deal with it! (one of my friend's comments)

    The blindfold thing seems weird. Blindfolding doesn't seem to equal jail to me. Stale crackers is a good idea though...

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    Yeah yeah what if one of them is deaf, blind, and has brain damage!

    The whole point of this is not to make it a practical scenario.

    Anyway. Punishment doesn't solve problems, but it does create them.

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    Posed this question to my SJ. His instant, joking reply was "lock the guilty one's head in a box".

    Better than anything I've come up with.

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    I don't think you could punish the killer. I would want them to be treated and hopefully their minds could be reconciled. They have to work together and can't be of significantly split mind or else be useless much like a single person who is internally conflicted. Considering their permanent proximity to each other, I would expect them to be very heavily influenced by each other, and in that sense, I tend to want to treat them as a single person.

    In some sense, I think the dilemma is a lot like what we really face all the time with people, and with ourselves, insofar as we feel inclined to think of a person as being taken hostage by guilty, hurtful, destructive thinking. It is generous and merciful for us to have that viewpoint ... truthfully I kind of like it, and would rather see people that way. I would rather see myself that way. I think of the irony of people saying things like "now you show your true colors!" when they do something evil, because the opposite may be the truth. People say when they do something they regret, "I was not myself". Their recognition of that tends to more easily inspire our forgiveness if we felt hurt by them, because our forgiveness amounts to the same thought pretty straightforwardly: who they are = that which is innocent.
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    I didn't bother to read all of the posts aside from the original, but I did go on a hunting for cases of conjoined twins. I went to college with a kid who went to high school with these girls:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K57IcN9DWXo


    Obviously they can not be separated...

    They do have separate personalities, but since they share so much of the body - they CAN control the other or at least inhibit the other from committing an act of murder. In this case, charge them both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    Posed this question to my SJ. His instant, joking reply was "lock the guilty one's head in a box".

    Better than anything I've come up with.
    That's actually quite good and still better than what an actual 'justice' system might come up with.
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    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
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