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    Quote Originally Posted by Saudade View Post
    I'm nobody! Who are you?
    Are you nobody, too?
    Then there's a pair of us
    Don't tell—they'd banish us, you know.
    Yesterday, upon the stair,
    I met a man who wasn't there
    He wasn't there again today
    I wish, I wish he'd go away...

    When I came home last night at three
    The man was waiting there for me
    But when I looked around the hall
    I couldn't see him there at all!
    Go away, go away, don't you come back any more!
    Go away, go away, and please don't slam the door... (slam!)

    Last night I saw upon the stair
    A little man who wasn't there
    He wasn't there again today
    Oh, how I wish he'd go away...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Yesterday, upon the stair,
    I met a man who wasn't there
    He wasn't there again today
    I wish, I wish he'd go away...

    When I came home last night at three
    The man was waiting there for me
    But when I looked around the hall
    I couldn't see him there at all!
    Go away, go away, don't you come back any more!
    Go away, go away, and please don't slam the door... (slam!)

    Last night I saw upon the stair
    A little man who wasn't there
    He wasn't there again today
    Oh, how I wish he'd go away...

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    I am what I am...

    I might not know why I do it, but that doesn't stop me from doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikeitlikethat View Post
    I am what I am...

    I might not know why I do it, but that doesn't stop me from doing it.
    "Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants." ~Schopenhauer

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    Are we all equal in front of our pen or our keyboard?

    Is the noosphere made of equal parts of the "we"?

    What is this "we" that I don't know, and that excludes the major part of the real mankind, the major part of the real world?

    Does the noosphere extend and share all its electronic tentacles into the heart of all the slums in Africa?
    "A man who only drinks water has a secret to hide from his fellow-men" -Baudelaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    Does the noosphere extend and share all its electronic tentacles into the heart of all the slums in Africa?
    Well yes, my dear Blackmail, (and how nice to talk to you again).

    Yes, the noosphere does extend its electronic tentacles into the heart of the slums of Africa. And the tentacle of choice is the mobile phone. For instance, there are 87.3 million mobile phone subscriptions in Nigeria alone.

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    The Tribal Maelström

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    Is the noosphere made of equal parts of the "we"?
    Prior to universal literacy we had the spoken culture. And the spoken culture consisted of different traditional tribes.

    And now post universal literacy we have the electronic culture. And like the traditional tribes of the spoken culture, the electronic tribes consist of different electronic tribes.

    For instance, as we watch with horror, we see Syria forming into two etribes, the eSunni and the eShia, each communicating on mobile phones and the internet.

    The tragedy for Syria is that they have two traditional tribes from the spoken culture, the Sunni and Shia, now having electronic tribalism put on top of the traditional tribalism. And it drives them into a frenzy.

    The antidote to traditional tribalism is universal literacy. And developed countries today have the antidote.

    Unfortunately spoken cultures today, without universal literacy, not only have no antidote to their own traditional tribalism, they have no antidote to electronic tribalism as well. So traditional tribalism and electronic tribalism reinforce one another, descending into the maelström.

    And fortunately for developed countries, universal literacy is also an antidote to electronic tribalism.

    How lucky can we be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    We prefer to step outside the taken for granted into ecstasy.

    And it is the 'I' that is taken for granted by the literate.

    But comically, every time we take part in the electronic media such as Central, the 'I' becomes absurd, and becomes a laughing stock and the butt of jokes by us.

    But of course the literate don't see it. The literate are blind and numb to the effects of the electronic media.
    you just have to learn to laugh at yourself and not take yourself so seriously Victor. you seem like a cool dude, you just have to chill the fuck out
    For all that we have done, as a civilization, as individuals, the universe is not stable, and nor is any single thing within it. Stars consume themselves, the universe itself rushes apart, and we ourselves are composed of matter in constant flux. Colonies of cells in temporary alliance, replicating and decaying and housed within, an incandescent cloud of electrical impulses. This is reality, this is self knowledge, and the perception of it will, of course, make you dizzy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UniqueMixture View Post
    you just have to learn to laugh at yourself and not take yourself so seriously Victor. you seem like a cool dude, you just have to chill the fuck out
    We enter a trance by turning off some cognitive faculties and turning on some creative faculties. One of the first cognitive faculties to go is our sense of humour.

    For instance, the Bible was written in a trance and shows little sign of a sense of humour. And this is true of all sacred books from the Koran, to the Analects of Confucius, to the Bagavad Gita.

    And although I share your desire to see the Bible, the Koran, the Analects of Confucius, the Bagavad Gita and me laugh at ourselves, the price for our laughter would be our creativity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    We enter a trance by turning off some cognitive faculties and turning on some creative faculties. One of the first cognitive faculties to go is our sense of humour.

    For instance, the Bible was written in a trance and shows little sign of a sense of humour. And this is true of all sacred books from the Koran, to the Analects of Confucius, to the Bagavad Gita.

    And although I share your desire to see the Bible, the Koran, the Analects of Confucius, the Bagavad Gita and me laugh at ourselves, the price for our laughter would be our creativity.
    Just no Victor. Just no.

    Creativity does not require a death of humour.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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