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    Well 50/20000 got the talent to spot a lie. I want that talent. I want to be the best. If I can't be the best fuck life.

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    Depends what the people with talent are doing. I've been naturally very good at something and seen my ass kicked by someone who ends up working a lot harder at it because they have to. Meanwhile I'm just relying on my talent. Other scenarios, someone who is naturally talented and also works hard at it.. it's hard to catch up with them.
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    The simpler the activity, the more talent matters. Being the fastest runner is based on a single item: being the first to cross the line. It takes innate ability to run a 9.42sec. 100 meters.
    Most other things can be learned.
    Thelonius Monk was a jazz pianist. He was considered a joke for over 10 years. Then suddenly he was a genius. It took that long for the world to catch up to his music.
    There are many pianists who have more in-born skill than he had, but he had a vision and stuck to it, and that made him a genius.
    So what is 'best'?

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    i think so
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Yes, I think drive and perseverance is equally (if not more) important than talent. If the driven person is hanging around with a bunch of talented but lazy people they are still going to be the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nebbykoo View Post
    The simpler the activity, the more talent matters. Being the fastest runner is based on a single item: being the first to cross the line. It takes innate ability to run a 9.42sec. 100 meters.
    Most other things can be learned.
    Thelonius Monk was a jazz pianist. He was considered a joke for over 10 years. Then suddenly he was a genius. It took that long for the world to catch up to his music.
    There are many pianists who have more in-born skill than he had, but he had a vision and stuck to it, and that made him a genius.
    So what is 'best'?
    Right.

    Or in very abstract things such as Go, talent can also matter in the form of having an overarching metaknowledge of yourself and the game.

    You can learn Go but mastery cannot be taught. It's gained through experience, but to gain it requires metaknowledge and awareness, since seeing where you went wrong in a specific game is quite academic but applying it to a future game that plays out differently requires a sense of endless iterations and even some psychology.

    It's a game with 2 × 10^170 legal positions, after all. This is comparable to say, the number of particles in the known universe - possibly more than.

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    Can you be the best at something without talent?
    No...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illmatic View Post
    Discuss.
    Haven't seen this thread before. My answer is "of course you can't and it's absurd to even think you can". But you CAN be the best YOU can be.
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    Hard work really does go a long way. Don't let your perception of your own talent stop you from doing what you feel passionately about.
    Don't worry about not being a genius. Geniuses are often as insecure as anyone, for similar reasons.

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