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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    It is Red Herring's role to lead us to Sauce. I will protect you.

    My take on the quote is it is useless out of the context of Cherokee beliefs.
    At last, somebody gets it. Follow me and I will lead you to Sauce. Become one with Sauce!
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    That must make you the fella who is here to ensure we can walk the earth unhammed?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    As long as you bring sauce. Or me to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    That must make you the fella who is here to ensure we can walk the earth unhammed?
    Sure, sweety, let me take you under my strong masculine wings and protect you.
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    I apologize to @Orangey and anyone else if I've actually tested your patience. Maybe that means something to you, maybe it doesn't. Maybe you actually don't care. I'm saying it anyway.

    I probably could have said less, and listened more. So I apologize if I caused you any actual grief, @Orangey (and anyone else)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    This thread is going to turn me into a morning drinker.
    I think I'll be joining you.

    I got tequila, whiskey, and grey goose. Take your pick.


    (unless of course, you just meant "some mornings" because no one would drink EVERY morning. )
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    *smothers Sprinkles in piri piri, eats it in a bagle*
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    *smothers Sprinkles in piri piri, eats it in a bagle*
    Will you cut the bagel into two congruent, linked halves? That would be awesome.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkles View Post
    I apologize to @Orangey and anyone else if I've actually tested your patience. Maybe that means something to you, maybe it doesn't. Maybe you actually don't care. I'm saying it anyway.

    I probably could have said less, and listened more. So I apologize if I caused you any actual grief, @Orangey (and anyone else)
    This is a trap isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I think I'll be joining you.

    I got tequila, whiskey, and grey goose. Take your pick.


    (unless of course, you just meant "some mornings" because no one would drink EVERY morning. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Consider the idea that trees have spirits. Can we prove this? No. Can we prove it is not true? No. We would first have to define spirit, then find some way of reliably scientifically measuring it, then have unbiased research on the matter, and then have it published in an unbiased fashion. But I don't need this verification to have it as a utilitarian belief. It produces preferable results for me; so it is a symbolic way of thinking which may not be consistent with absolute objective truth, which I "believe" anyway. I don't assert it as an objective truth, because it is essentially unknowable. But I can operate under the reliable assumption. Maybe the underlying objective principle which is True is that trees and I are made of atoms and their electrons respond to my electrons with the help of protons and neutrons, and that by behaving in a way consistent with this "belief" my energy affects the trees' energy in a way which maximizes health and well being for all.

    Regardless of whether you can prove that trees have spirits, they either do or do not.

    All i could derive from this post is that you define spirit as the electrical activity of matter. Which we can prove exists. I don't see the point of thinking symbolically in regards to explaining your concept of the world. It literature or poems sure. But "utilitarian beliefs" seem to simply be "saying what you don't actually mean because it sounds more poetic and mystical than the truth".

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